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General UO Chat / Early bod observations post pub 95
« on: November 03, 2016, 05:41:18 PM »
I've been on test a while checking out the new system, and it's a lot different than the current one...
- Bods no longer give rewards(like PoF, Hammer etc), they all give points
- Each bod gives a choice of receiving full value(ie: 25 pts on a small iron 20 buckler bod) for turning in or partial value(0.125 pts) for banking the value instead
- Banking pts value looks locked at 5% of the total turn in value
- If you choose to take the full value of the bod you MUST spend those pts before the NPC accepts another bod from you
- If you choose to bank the 5% offer you can carry those pts over into the value of another bod
- example: PoF is on the rewards menu for 425 pts. If you do a bod worth 425 pts you can pick PoF with that one bod, no need to bank the pts
- Each craft has it's own rewards menu so if you plan on doing all types of crafting bods the pts do not pool together
- I did a valorite normal small 15 and got 850 pts for it, a valorite hammer on the menu is 1200 pts, so the top end items will require you to bank at least some bods
- The 6 hr timer remains, and it still accumulates up to 3 bods at a time. Likewise you get another new bod for every bod you turn in.
If PoF is what you are after then any bod you have which gives more than 425pts is in effect a PoF bod. A copper runic is 650 pts. I don't have a chart of which bods are worth what yet but will work on it. It's taking me a bit to wrap my head around the new system, it's not like the current system at all.
I can see that they took care to mess up scripters a bit during turn in. If you bank everything you lose 95% of the point value so banking a 450pt bod instead of taking PoF as a reward will be a huge loss in gold value. When you sort your bods there will not be any more "PoF" book or "hammer" book etc, since it's all about pts you'll set waypoints instead... like "425+" for any bod that gives PoF and "650+" for any bod that gives a copper runic etc. Those bods can be instantly turned in for those rewards on the spot without banking pts. Anything below 425 looks like it would be best to bank.
My take: I like the system. Tinkerers can make a 250 PoF holding keg and there are other various nice perks. As for running tons of bod runners on all accounts and all servers to make this work, no longer needed. Why not? Because you don't need mass amounts of bods anymore to get the rewards you want. You don't need to churn and hope for a PoF bod for example. Sure you can run lots of accounts for more bods but having just 1 smith standing at the forge turning them over will end up with the same number of rewards over time. Every bod suddenly has value.
What does it mean for scripters? It means you don't need a lot of bod "runners", you need a lot of bod "finishers" that are actually completing them. Gathering is no longer the focus, more won't get you better rewards vs someone with just one smith who is doing every bod. I'm wondering if the REAL value in the new system will be to mine the ore and sell it instead, there will probably be an increased price on materials soon. Likewise it may be better still to just turn in the ingots for cleanup pts and buy other stuff on the cleanup menu.
FYI: Dyes are not in the bod rewards, those must be from the yearly artisan fair which runs Dec 1 to Jan 1.
- Bods no longer give rewards(like PoF, Hammer etc), they all give points
- Each bod gives a choice of receiving full value(ie: 25 pts on a small iron 20 buckler bod) for turning in or partial value(0.125 pts) for banking the value instead
- Banking pts value looks locked at 5% of the total turn in value
- If you choose to take the full value of the bod you MUST spend those pts before the NPC accepts another bod from you
- If you choose to bank the 5% offer you can carry those pts over into the value of another bod
- example: PoF is on the rewards menu for 425 pts. If you do a bod worth 425 pts you can pick PoF with that one bod, no need to bank the pts
- Each craft has it's own rewards menu so if you plan on doing all types of crafting bods the pts do not pool together
- I did a valorite normal small 15 and got 850 pts for it, a valorite hammer on the menu is 1200 pts, so the top end items will require you to bank at least some bods
- The 6 hr timer remains, and it still accumulates up to 3 bods at a time. Likewise you get another new bod for every bod you turn in.
If PoF is what you are after then any bod you have which gives more than 425pts is in effect a PoF bod. A copper runic is 650 pts. I don't have a chart of which bods are worth what yet but will work on it. It's taking me a bit to wrap my head around the new system, it's not like the current system at all.
I can see that they took care to mess up scripters a bit during turn in. If you bank everything you lose 95% of the point value so banking a 450pt bod instead of taking PoF as a reward will be a huge loss in gold value. When you sort your bods there will not be any more "PoF" book or "hammer" book etc, since it's all about pts you'll set waypoints instead... like "425+" for any bod that gives PoF and "650+" for any bod that gives a copper runic etc. Those bods can be instantly turned in for those rewards on the spot without banking pts. Anything below 425 looks like it would be best to bank.
My take: I like the system. Tinkerers can make a 250 PoF holding keg and there are other various nice perks. As for running tons of bod runners on all accounts and all servers to make this work, no longer needed. Why not? Because you don't need mass amounts of bods anymore to get the rewards you want. You don't need to churn and hope for a PoF bod for example. Sure you can run lots of accounts for more bods but having just 1 smith standing at the forge turning them over will end up with the same number of rewards over time. Every bod suddenly has value.
What does it mean for scripters? It means you don't need a lot of bod "runners", you need a lot of bod "finishers" that are actually completing them. Gathering is no longer the focus, more won't get you better rewards vs someone with just one smith who is doing every bod. I'm wondering if the REAL value in the new system will be to mine the ore and sell it instead, there will probably be an increased price on materials soon. Likewise it may be better still to just turn in the ingots for cleanup pts and buy other stuff on the cleanup menu.
FYI: Dyes are not in the bod rewards, those must be from the yearly artisan fair which runs Dec 1 to Jan 1.