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Title: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on April 01, 2017, 05:00:27 PM
Tidus asked what my new build entails, so here it is:

AMD Ryzen 1700X 8/16(core/thread) 3.4/3.8GHZ CPU, $399
Gigabyte AB350-Gaming 3 Motherboard, $109
SanDisk SD8NAT123G1002 M.2 128GB Mkey (boot) $free (from old build)
SanDisk Ultra II 480GB SATA FLASH (Programs) $free (from old build)
Seagate  ST4000DM005 4TB drive (Users) , $119
Corsair 16GB DDR4 2133MHz (CMV8GX4M1A2133C15) (2x8GB), $114
NVIDIA GTX1070SC Video card, $398 (open-box.  not including $40 rebate)
Corsair CX750 750W power supply, $80
Roswill ATX gaming tower, $60
ThermalTake Contac Silent CPU fan, $25


Corsair Vengeance (9CMK16GXm2A2400C16) does not work!!!!

I originally started out with an ASUS Prime X370-Pro motherboard, but I couldn't get it to POST.  I then turned in that board for this one (Gigabyte) and also no POST.  Finally I got an ASUS PRIME B350M-A motherboard and no POST.  I exchanged the CPU and still no POST, so I changed from 2400MHz memory to 2133MHz memory and like magic everything started to work.

So I've got around $1300 bucks into this new rig (not including the 2 "free" drives)

Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: valen2.0 on April 01, 2017, 05:07:32 PM
gah beat me by 300 bucks TM
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on April 01, 2017, 05:13:14 PM
I need to get a different fan though; this one is far from silent.
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: cybercasper on April 01, 2017, 05:49:07 PM
This makes me think I need to do a build myself once I get my taxes back. May ask for some help here since I have never done it before.
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: Wiper on April 01, 2017, 07:39:59 PM
nice build
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on April 02, 2017, 09:02:13 AM
I tell you what though, I thought this was going to be the first build that I would fail at.  No matter what computer I've put together over the years, I've been able to figure out all the build issues and component failures, but man this one threw me for a loop over the last 2 weeks.  I was on the verge of returning all the parts and waiting until everything wasn't so "new".

But yes, this thing (for the price), really does scream!
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: gimlet on April 02, 2017, 09:31:58 AM
Well I learned a valuable lesson from you - check your memory and speed for compatibility!
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on April 02, 2017, 09:34:57 AM
Well I learned a valuable lesson from you - check your memory and speed for compatibility!

Yes, especially since that memory was supposed to be on the accepted list! 
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: Tidus on April 02, 2017, 11:13:40 AM
Tidus asked what my new build entails, so here it is:

AMD Ryzen 1700X 8/16(core/thread) 3.4/3.8GHZ CPU, $399
Gigabyte AB350-Gaming 3 Motherboard, $109
SanDisk SD8NAT123G1002 M.2 128GB Mkey (boot) $free (from old build)
SanDisk Ultra II 480GB SATA FLASH (Programs) $free (from old build)
Seagate  ST4000DM005 4TB drive, $119
Corsair 16GB DDR4 2133MHz (CMV8GX4M1A2133C15) (2x8GB), $114
NVIDIA GTX1070SC Video card, $398 (open-box.  not including $40 rebate)
Corsair CX750 750W power supply, $80
Roswill ATX gaming tower, $60
ThermalTake Contac Silent CPU fan, $25


Corsair Vengeance (9CMK16GXm2A2400C16) does not work!!!!

I originally started out with an ASUS Prime X370-Pro motherboard, but I couldn't get it to POST.  I then turned in that board for this one (Gigabyte) and also no POST.  Finally I got an ASUS PRIME B350M-A motherboard and no POST.  I exchanged the CPU and still no POST, so I changed from 2400MHz memory to 2133MHz memory and like magic everything started to work.

So I've got around $1300 bucks into this new rig (not including the 2 "free" drives)

Love the build.  Definitely going to look at this as my next build if my wife lets me make a new computer :)
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: Tidus on April 02, 2017, 11:25:34 AM
This is what I was thinking about building.
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on April 02, 2017, 01:10:36 PM
What video card are you thinking about Tidus?  With the Gaming 3, you can only Crossfire with AMD.  If you want to SLI with NVIDIA, you'll need to get a X370 motherboard. 

BTW, I counted all my motherboard manuals (list coming soon) and I've put together *at least* 36 different kinds of systems over the years.  I'm pretty sure I'm missing a few (like my first one AMD-386-40)(3 people) and another one I put together for myself and 2 other people.  I guess I love building new computers.

I was originally going to do dual GTX1070s with my first X370 motherboard, but after the build issues and also limited SLI support exists in Linux, I decided to just stay with a single card.  I'm getting 60FPS in crowded areas on Rift when I was used to less that 20FPS on my AMD FX from before, so I think I'm going to be OK. ;)

Hoipefully with new BIOS updates, the memory compatibility will become better.  The Ryzen can handle 3400MHz memory, but right now I'm stuck at 2133MHz.  That's why I'm staying at 16GB.  I plan on using that other basic AM4 motherboard from ASUS in a future build, so I can migrate the slower memory to that computer once I find a faster memory that works for this gaming system.
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: Tidus on April 03, 2017, 05:12:52 AM
I was going to try the integrated graphics to see how well they perform before going on to a bigger graphics card. I like to test things like that :)
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: BobOzarius on April 03, 2017, 07:55:04 AM
TM, every AMD build I've ever done seems to have a bit of issues with the memory controller and large amounts of ram. I've always had to use ram that's a bit less than the highest available rated when doing a 16 or greater gig build because it puts a lot of stress on the memory controller. I either run the ram at a lower rated speed, or you have to up the power to the ram to get a stable build. I think it's because the memory controller is built into the chips right? I forget, it's been a long time since I've built a system. Mine is super stable finally but I always have to sacrifice a bit in the memory department to be 100% stable. Hopefully the memory controller issues have been worked out with the new chips and memory. 
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on April 03, 2017, 08:38:54 AM
TM, every AMD build I've ever done seems to have a bit of issues with the memory controller and large amounts of ram. I've always had to use ram that's a bit less than the highest available rated when doing a 16 or greater gig build because it puts a lot of stress on the memory controller. I either run the ram at a lower rated speed, or you have to up the power to the ram to get a stable build. I think it's because the memory controller is built into the chips right? I forget, it's been a long time since I've built a system. Mine is super stable finally but I always have to sacrifice a bit in the memory department to be 100% stable. Hopefully the memory controller issues have been worked out with the new chips and memory.

Yes, you're exactly right.  And with the Ryzen, it's extra touchy since it's so new.  Sounds like relief is coming, but it's going to be up to the memory manufacturers to "tweak" their stuff a little bit to make the faster memory more widely useful.  I've read about people who have gotten 2400MHz memory to work, but nothing faster so far.  Also I've read about more success by using only 2 SIMMs vs. 4.  I'm OK for now; the ValueSelect Corsair 2133MHz stuff is good enough for now and the system performance is WAAAY better than my last gaming build from circa 2011.  :)

I generally don't push the performance envelope.  I might build alot of systems, but I generally don't overclock.  I've only done 1 SLI build in my life and that turned into a PITA.
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on April 03, 2017, 08:44:52 AM
I was going to try the integrated graphics to see how well they perform before going on to a bigger graphics card. I like to test things like that :)
Hmm, everywhere I read says that the Ryzen 7 doesn't include integrated graphics, so you should be sure the motherboard has something.  Their APUs are coming soon that have Radeon silicon, but they are introducing the enthusiast CPUs first (Ryzen 7,5,3)

So your first test might be HEAD-->DESK as you realize you have no video.  :P
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: Tidus on April 03, 2017, 08:55:13 AM
I was going to try the integrated graphics to see how well they perform before going on to a bigger graphics card. I like to test things like that :)
Hmm, everywhere I read says that the Ryzen 7 doesn't include integrated graphics, so you should be sure the motherboard has something.  Their APUs are coming soon that have Radeon silicon, but they are introducing the enthusiast CPUs first (Ryzen 7,5,3)

So your first test might be HEAD-->DESK as you realize you have no video.  :P

Oh trust me.. I checked :)

Integrated Graphics Processor:
1 x DVI-D port, supporting a maximum resolution of 1920x1200@60 Hz
* The DVI-D port does not support D-Sub connection by adapter.
1 x HDMI port, supporting a maximum resolution of 4096x2160@24 Hz
* Support for HDMI 1.4 version.
Maximum shared memory of 2GB
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on April 03, 2017, 09:00:04 AM

Oh trust me.. I checked :)

Integrated Graphics Processor:
1 x DVI-D port, supporting a maximum resolution of 1920x1200@60 Hz
* The DVI-D port does not support D-Sub connection by adapter.
1 x HDMI port, supporting a maximum resolution of 4096x2160@24 Hz
* Support for HDMI 1.4 version.
Maximum shared memory of 2GB

When I get a sec, I'll try it for ya.  Since they don't quote the "type" of card compatibility, that has me questioning it.  I'm kinda thinking that's the requirements and capabilities you have *if* you have an Athlon A-series APU installed.  Then the DVI/HDMI connections on the motherboard are used for that.
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on April 03, 2017, 09:23:04 AM
Your question wasn't clearly answered here, but the confusion is real. :)

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3349492/ryzen-1700-boot-motherboard-onboard-graphics.html

EDIT:
Just rebooted with the HDMI attached to the HDMI port of the motherboard, an no dice.  Looks like you'll need a video card or wait for the APU.

Now my icons are messed up on my desktop.  Argh....  I forgot to take a snapshot of my icon location with DesktopOK.  rats.

But hey, your question is now clearly answered.  Go for the GTX1070; it's super sweet.  ;)  just don't tell Mama Bear.  lol
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: Tidus on April 03, 2017, 10:02:04 AM
Thanks, definitely good to know!
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: BobOzarius on April 03, 2017, 03:30:51 PM
I don't know about the newer chips, but on the stuff one step below yours, 2 sticks is DEFINITELY better than 4. 4 was a nightmare to get stable. And I ended up either burning 2 sticks up or damaging 2 slots by upping the voltage to those sticks after some time. Or both. Luckily the board has worked like a champ for a long time with just 2 sticks for 16 gigs and I haven't had to replace/upgrade it yet. Soon though.

TM, every AMD build I've ever done seems to have a bit of issues with the memory controller and large amounts of ram. I've always had to use ram that's a bit less than the highest available rated when doing a 16 or greater gig build because it puts a lot of stress on the memory controller. I either run the ram at a lower rated speed, or you have to up the power to the ram to get a stable build. I think it's because the memory controller is built into the chips right? I forget, it's been a long time since I've built a system. Mine is super stable finally but I always have to sacrifice a bit in the memory department to be 100% stable. Hopefully the memory controller issues have been worked out with the new chips and memory.

Yes, you're exactly right.  And with the Ryzen, it's extra touchy since it's so new.  Sounds like relief is coming, but it's going to be up to the memory manufacturers to "tweak" their stuff a little bit to make the faster memory more widely useful.  I've read about people who have gotten 2400MHz memory to work, but nothing faster so far.  Also I've read about more success by using only 2 SIMMs vs. 4.  I'm OK for now; the ValueSelect Corsair 2133MHz stuff is good enough for now and the system performance is WAAAY better than my last gaming build from circa 2011.  :)

I generally don't push the performance envelope.  I might build alot of systems, but I generally don't overclock.  I've only done 1 SLI build in my life and that turned into a PITA.
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: BobOzarius on April 03, 2017, 03:33:56 PM
By the way, the 1070 might be nice, but the Sapphire RX470/480 8 gig... is super nice also. For a lot cheaper.
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on April 03, 2017, 07:25:43 PM
Fun new twist on this build....  Since I only bought one SIMM to test this speed, I bought an exact model number of the SIMM to match the one I previously got so I can have 2-8GB SIMMs.  However, the one I got would not allow the system to POST.  So this is probably the most touchy RAM-sensitive build I've ever put together. 

So I'll sent this SIMM back to Amazon and wait for the replacement to arrive.  Jeez beez.
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: BobOzarius on April 04, 2017, 06:18:39 AM
I know you know you shouldn't ever use multiple ram sticks that didn't come from the exact same production lot. Right?  That's ram 101!
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on April 04, 2017, 08:10:17 AM
Oh yes, I was just hoping.  :)  I have gotten lucky in the past.  I already have a nice pair of G.Skill Ripjaw on the way.  That seems to be a RAM people have had luck with on this build.  I'll have this single trusty stick to fall back on if the world comes to an end.  hehe

I'm just in tweaking phase now.  I don't like this CPU fan I bought.  When they say "silent" in the title, I'd like it to be a bit more quite than this thing is.  Right now there aren't alot of CPU fans that fit the AM4 socket unfortunately.  Hopefully that'll be remedied in the next couple months.
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on April 05, 2017, 07:28:18 PM
So the memory I ended up with that seems to work well is the G.SKILL TridentZ DDR4 3200MHz (F43200C16D-16GTZKW)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HFR96OQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

So working at 16GBytes now and have some room to play with overclocking it.  Doubtful it'll overclock much though.

I also switched my fan to the MSI Core Frozr L and it's MUCH quieter.  I'm sure my Thermaltake was defective, but at $25 bucks, I'm not worried.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MFB358A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: valen2.0 on April 06, 2017, 06:14:38 PM
My pc I so quiet and runs so cool. Its not even liquid cooled. it has 4  140mm fans  and 1 120mm fan it is amazing. my last pc could be used as a space heater :p
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on April 06, 2017, 09:02:47 PM
My pc I so quiet and runs so cool. Its not even liquid cooled. it has 4  140mm fans  and 1 120mm fan it is amazing. my last pc could be used as a space heater :p


Mine is too!  NOW
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on April 11, 2017, 08:54:40 AM
I'm actually upgrading my main interwebz desk system with a Ryzen 5 1600.  I'm absolutely shocked about the performance/value you get with this processor.  The 1600 is only $219 for 6/12 cores and comes with a cooling fan.

What sold me was all my Handbrake conversions.  On my previous CPU, I got used to it taking a certain amount of time.  My older 8 core AMD does a respectable job, but I noticed this was MUCH faster with my 1700X.  Like 2x.  Crazy.

No doubt there will be additional headaches since this computer is Linux - Fedora.  Gotta love a challenge though.
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: BobOzarius on April 11, 2017, 09:21:44 AM
I was just looking at performance comparisons for Ryzen the other day too. I'm pretty sure that's the one I'm going to get also.  ;)  It'll go very nice with my Sapphire 470 8gig. Next will be a Freesync monitor.  Probly something like this Samsung. (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824022246&nm_mc=KNC-MSNSearch-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-MSNSearch-PC-_-pla-_-Monitors+-+LCD+Flat+Panel-_-SAMSUNG-_-24022246&gclid=CLDR4-r0nNMCFbMnfgodLAYFJg&gclsrc=ds)
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on April 11, 2017, 08:01:28 PM
I like that monitor.  That's been on my wish list for a while now.  Been stuck at 60hz for a while now.  But finally a computer capable of making a monitor groan!  Yess.
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: BobOzarius on April 12, 2017, 03:00:04 AM
I'd like a 32" Samsung at that price, but to get even a 28" Samsung 4k 1ms response freesync monitor under 500... Great deal.
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on April 13, 2017, 04:31:05 PM
So I got the Ryzen 1600 installed in my new desk computer (which is a hodge-podge of older parts and parts left over from the 1700x build).  Installed Fedora 25 easily and seems to be running smoothly.  In fact, since i cloned my /home directory, I managed to get all my wine/Thunderbird/Firefox etc links all setup.  I'm surprised it went so easy.  It didn't feel like I was wrestling with the black beast of Argh like I was with the 1700x.  Lessons learned I suppose.  Touchy memory, but otherwise very solid.
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on April 14, 2017, 04:54:01 PM
Another interesting thing I just found on this ASUS PRIME B350M-A motherboard I'm using for my Ryzen 1600.  Originally with the BIOS I had on there, I could only use one stick of my ValueRam.  I had bought another non-matching one, and got another for replacement, but it still didn't work.  So I basically had 8GB when I first put this computer together.  But now that I've got this computer up and running, I upgraded the BIOS again to the latest version.  Just for giggles, I tried putting the 2nd 8GB stick into the system and viola, it works this time.  So it's good to see the BIOS updates are already having a very positive effect on RAM compatibility. 

It will be tricky getting your system to a point where you can POST, but when you do I think the BIOS updates will help immensely.
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: BobOzarius on May 13, 2017, 02:34:48 PM
TM, how are you liking the Ryzen 1600 so far? I'm thinking of pulling the trigger today on one. At $219 bucks, what are your thoughts on price/performance for that chip? And you didn't by the 1600x did you? For the price, I think the 1600 beats out the 1600x for price/performance. 365 compared to 219? For a bit more performance? No thanks. I'm going to go 32 gigs of high speed ram, and pay for AMD's ram drive software also. If you haven't used it, give it a try. Setting up an 8 to 16 gig ram drive is so hot, especially when you throw software on it. I do a lot of video editing and encoding, video preview in Adobe After Effects is amazing when you give it a 16 gig ram drive to do it's thing on. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Ryzen 1600 when you get a chance. I'm most likely going to buy it today, but I'll wait a bit and see what you think about yours. Also, what do you think about cooling that chip? At 65 watts, I'm sure air is just fine. But does it seem to run hot for you? Do you have an after market cooler for 1600? And if you do, do you feel like it was needed?
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on May 13, 2017, 11:04:43 PM
That computer uses the 1600.  It's sort of hard to compare it to my main system (Ryzen 1700X) because the 1600 computer is a Linux box.  However, the Handbrake conversions I do on the 6/12 core 1600 are OBVIOUSLY faster than my older computer.  That was a 6-core Athlon, but was showing its age for  sure.  So multithreaded stuff should rock.  I was shocked with Rift honestly.  I was used to getting 30fps in the crowded areas, but on this 1700X system with a GTX1070, I get over 100fps.  The difference is night/day.

I don't have Passmark on the 1600 Linux system, but here's a screenshot of my Win10 1700X system.  The CPU is at the 97th percentile.  My memory could be better; still limping alone with my fast memory only clocked at 2133MHz.  I'm hoping there'll be more relief there with future BIOS updates.  But at least the last one unlocked better overall performance in windows (it was already good). (lol, I just realized I did that passmark while I have UO running in a VM mining on Rebirth... crazy)

But for bang/buck, you just can't beat the 1600.  I wish I could tell you how it "feels" in Windows.  After I got past my memory woes on both systems, things have been smooth.

Oh, cooler.  I'm running the stock cooler that comes with the CPU.  I did actually buy a much bigger cooler, but frankly I haven't needed it.  I converted a whole bunch of movies  from MKV to H264 so they'll play on my Rasberry Pi  Plex server.  It chugged through 20 bluerays taxing all cores and I didn't even hear the fan go crazy.  The 1600 runs cool it would seem.  I guess I'll keep the large cooler in the box.  I did have a problem when I first put the fan on, because I didn't fully tighten the fan to the motherboard.  I came home to find it locked up and that's actually why I purchased the larger fan.  But then I discovered the error and corrected it.  No problems since then; and that includes a 99 degree day here already.
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: gruntman on May 14, 2017, 10:09:40 AM
impressive....
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on May 14, 2017, 11:02:16 AM
Which CPU is that Grunt?
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: gruntman on May 14, 2017, 11:36:10 AM
1800X - had a deal where buy the cpu and motherboard and get 100.00 off.  Besides that they were out of the one i was after which was the 1600. So basically your post inspired me to well ...yeah...New build :)

Added....was also running a build i did in 2011!
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on May 14, 2017, 11:37:21 AM
1800X - had a deal where buy the cpu and motherboard and get 100.00 off.  Besides that they were out of the one i was after which was the 1600. So basically your post inspired me to well ...yeah...New build :)

Have you overclocked at all or is that stock settings?
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: gruntman on May 14, 2017, 11:41:07 AM
still running at stock....it is water cooled however...i wanted to make sure its stable as is for a bit then its play time...not really big difference from yours however
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: BobOzarius on May 14, 2017, 04:17:04 PM
For the price, I can blow up 2 and half Ryzen 1600's overclocking them to be nearly a 1700.  I pulled the trigger and went with water cooling so I can overclock this one to hell. If I blow it up, I'm still in it for less than a 1700+.  ;)
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: gruntman on May 14, 2017, 06:05:05 PM
agreed...but i had the money and wanted it :)
not to mention i live down the street from microcenter and they were having a sale when i got this one....I am happy and would do it again...all that matters :)
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: BobOzarius on May 31, 2017, 01:53:02 AM
*sigh*

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117639&cm_re=intel_xeon_18_core-_-19-117-639-_-Product
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on May 31, 2017, 05:45:00 AM
*sigh*

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117639&cm_re=intel_xeon_18_core-_-19-117-639-_-Product
haha, that's waaaaay out of my price range.  Almost might say "intel" priced.  heh
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: BobOzarius on May 31, 2017, 06:58:41 AM
They can't let AMD have their moment in the sun for even a minute.  ;) My 6 core cpu uses as much power as this 18 core does!  Crazy.  Also, I ran the same test against my Ryzen 1600, and it was 3x faster than my old cpu in the cpu scoring.  Crazy.
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on May 31, 2017, 10:22:56 AM
They can't let AMD have their moment in the sun for even a minute.  ;) My 6 core cpu uses as much power as this 18 core does!  Crazy.  Also, I ran the same test against my Ryzen 1600, and it was 3x faster than my old cpu in the cpu scoring.  Crazy.

So you got it together then.  How do you like it so far?

It's funny, if it wasn't for AMD, Intel would just sit and milk the 3,5,7 thing for all its worth.
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: BobOzarius on May 31, 2017, 10:38:25 AM
I mean I ran my 1600 against my old system. And yea, I love it. 3x the performance for a 400 dollar investment? CPU, RAM, motherboard. Everything else I had laying around. I'm seriously considering getting the 12 core intel chip though too. I do a ton of high end hd video editing in Adobe After Effects, and those cpus are just crazy talk. I can't even imagine. The extra cache on the chip and all those extra threads on the chips... I'll get 32 gigs of ram and have a 16 gig ram drive just for the video cache in After Effects... smooth scrolling through hd video while you edit it is a beautiful thing.  ;)
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on June 01, 2017, 01:23:36 PM
I'm interested in this AMD upcoming offering:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3197184/components-processors/amd-ryzen-threadripper-prices-specs-release-date-and-more.html

No doubt it will actually be a better deal than whatever Intel has up their sleeves. 
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: BobOzarius on June 02, 2017, 05:31:43 AM
Of course they released that. What else would they do when Intel just released a whole new line of chips after AMD's amazing Ryzen showing, that has 6/8/10/12/14/16, and 18 cores. And intels chips usually beat AMD with less cores. haha And AMD is like, WE SHOULD HAVE A 16 CORE OUT IN 6 MONTHS!  lol  Damnit AMD! THINK AHEAD. I'm just glad my new cpu is 65w on a 14nm process. That halves my power consumption. Any savings go right back into computer parts! It's all about scraping to buy the best parts you can afford! 
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on June 02, 2017, 06:35:40 AM
Heh, yeh that's the way of the technology world.  My guess is the threadripper won't be the bargain the 8 core Ryzens are up and down the product line.  But even 1/2 the price of that Intel part you posted, it's still a great deal and keeps Intel's INSANE pricing model in check.  I love capitalism, but man I get tired of being told to bend over and grab the brass rail, son.  Sheesh.
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: BobOzarius on June 02, 2017, 10:19:56 AM
Especially when costs and materials go down, and prices mysteriously continue to go up and up. 
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on June 02, 2017, 01:49:00 PM
Price is even better than I could have hoped for!

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-threadripper-16-core-cpu-849-us-price-x399-motherboards/

But that x399 motherboard will probably be very spendy...
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: BobOzarius on June 06, 2017, 07:25:19 AM
My favorite part of this video is where he explains that the Ryzen 5 1600 is just an 1800x with cores turned off because they didn't pass quality control. Eventually someone will release a bios hack that will unlock those extra cores. See if maybe you get lucky and get an 1800x for 200$.  ;)

Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on August 30, 2017, 09:13:19 PM
Did you get a Thread ripper yet, Bobo?
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: BobOzarius on August 31, 2017, 06:37:05 AM
When the 1900x comes down to 299 maybe.  ;)  At 1000 for the 1950x though... no thanks. Still too high priced when I can get "fast enough" for 200 or less.  ;)
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: TrailMyx on August 31, 2017, 07:28:00 AM
When the 1900x comes down to 299 maybe.  ;)  At 1000 for the 1950x though... no thanks. Still too high priced when I can get "fast enough" for 200 or less.  ;)

Oh I hear ya.  I'm totally impressed with the 1700x right now.  That was as close to "premium" as I was willing to pay.
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: BobOzarius on August 31, 2017, 01:41:57 PM
I'll upload a few pictures.  ;)
Title: Re: My new Ryzen build
Post by: BobOzarius on August 31, 2017, 02:22:09 PM
Some observations after having a Ryzen build for a bit. The ram issues seem to have been mostly addressed. It's still picky about what ram it likes, but of the choices you have available, all of them seem to work mostly fine now out of the box.

Ryzen seems to be VERY power efficient. My cpu fan rarely spins up, and very rarely leaves the 40-50 degree range. It helps that it's designed on a 14nm process and the processor I have is a 65watt cpu. I have under volted my cpu and actually gained a bit of cpu performance. While saving power. That's just perfect for me. I love power efficient tech, because heat kills. I have 2 fans in my case not including the cpu cooler and graphics card fans, and it runs at great temps.

The power of this chip after what I had before, doesn't seem to be mind blowingly insane, but it's 3x the cpu I had, and nothing gives it trouble. There's not a game I can't play at max settings 1080p at 60fps. Anything higher and you can start to push it on some games though. Which was a bit of a disappointment. I'm sure the higher end cpus address this though easily. And if I chose to overclock, I'm sure I could easily run anything with high settings at higher frame rates.

I've been completely satisfied with this purchase. The 1600 is about all you need at this time for anything you're doing. It's a great chip all around for anything. I personally might have went with the cheapest 8 core chip if I did it over again. But I'm still completely satisfied. I've always been in the price/performance category when buying computer parts, and this doesn't disappoint for the performance and price point it's at. I highly suggest this, or if you have a little cash to spare, the cheapest 8 core version of Ryzen. I also have a Sapphire RX 470 8 gig video card that helps chew through most anything I throw at it. Those two components will future proof you for a couple years at this point. That's about all I can ask for a 4-500 dollar investment. And well worth every penny. The components I bought all feel really well built too and like they'll last for a long time to come. We'll see.  ;)