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Ultima Online Fan Board => General UO Chat => Topic started by: Khameleon on June 28, 2009, 03:44:14 PM
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What Bows do you like and Why? - Thread pops up after I got my First Heartwood Fletchers Kit.
Personally I like the Magical Bow Family, I like to make the Lightweight Short bow, I have hundreds of Hundreds of White Pearls and I can only make so many PoM.
Back onto topic.. Its got the Psychic Attack, and Lightning Arrow, and I think the best Property is "Balanced"
Also what is the best way to use a Fletching Runic Kit?
I've been told to Use Normal Wood, then to Try an Enhance the bows Depending on the Properties wood gave them.
if thats not the best route, which wood should I be looking to burn up.
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a. How do you obtain the PoM recipe.
b. Balanced is great for PVP pop chuggers, next is max ssi, then I like procs, HLA, HLD, HCI
c. Are you going to burn your new Runic?
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a. How do you obtain the PoM recipe.
b. Balanced is great for PVP pop chuggers, next is max ssi, then I like procs, HLA, HLD, HCI
c. Are you going to burn your new Runic?
- Tinker Quest - I did that before I found the quester by hand - Yes it sucked
- Yes I hate disarming to Chug a Refresh, And Yes SSI Is my next Property
- That is the Plan - But I'd like to see what other bows people like to use
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I just got my first heartwood runic tool. :) Hope i get godly pvp composite bow with balance, ssi, , di, hld and maybe mana leech i am always out of mana. :)
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My pvp archers MUST have the following:
Composite
Bow
Crossbow
Heavy XBow
On my composite I like Fireball. People say it sucks with moving shot cause of the rubber banding but IDC i'm fine with it cause I'm so fast. I mainly like fireball for disruption on mages. I can get em in a stupid cycle w/ fireballs and unload 5 AI's to just finish the fight quick and mindlessly.
Bow for para shot. If we're all on archers I tell everyone to conc/ai (one person mortals) one guy then tab out. When they hit I hit with para blow. We all wait a sec cause of my switch bow swign penalty, then attack at the same time, insta death. I got a buddy that's good at this and we usually tear people up with that cycle.
Xbow is a no brainer. Get em stuck in a nasty mortal cycle somewhere in mid life range then conc.
I take Lightning/Fireball on all bows except the normal bow. I usually use a 50%ssi event bow, or just lightning. Of course I choose via the following:
SSI (must)
Spell (I have mace & shield)
HLD
Manaleech / HLA / DCI
I don't care about DI on weapons as I get 55% from my faction arties and my jewels get me to 100%.
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Also always use the SSI wood. IT would just suck too much to miss the enhance. Rolls for good bows are already shitty enough :*(
For crafting I usually choose composites/crossbows. I let everone else make heavys & bows & just buy em :P
Lightweight shortbows are sexy. Especially if you get a nice SSI one w/ hit area and mana leech! A archer wammy is a BEAST for spawning w/ them.
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I generally go crossbow. I hate the low EQ% on the magicals but they are great mage disrupters. Overall though I feel like a really solid crossbow or composite are the best.
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With imbuing on the way are you guys making bows with normal wood now since enhanced stuff can't be imbued? Or still going the ash route?
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onlyindreams .... You can enhance imbued items, but you cannot imbue enhanced items.. This means that any item that you'd want to enhance should first be crafted out of the base material (iron / plain wood / regular leather) THEN Imbued THEN enhanced. (and yes if I understand stuff correctly you could indeed waste alot of effort by trying to enhance a super leet 5 mod something and fail breaking it...)
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I'm thinking of burning a Heartwood Kit on Ranger Shortbows. Using Ash you could get 35% SSI on them, with 15% SSI guaranteed. This would be for my son's PvM char. He needs a good, all purpose bow to carry around with him.
Hopefully I can get a GM made short with some Mana Leech on it so he can spam his lightning strikes.
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I just went to TC a few days ago and burned some Heartwood Fletching Kits on magical shortbows. I was totally unimpressed with the results. Everytime I get the urge to burn a runic I head over to TC and everytime I shake my head at what pops out. Maybe I'm unlucky is all...
Magical shortbow is my favorite weapon although I wish the specials were better. Do let us know if you get anything good.
The best bows I've gotten were off Dreadhorn when wearing a luck suit. I'd then enhance them with Ash to boost the SSI.
I am looking forward to imbueing bows and jewelry. It's the melee weapons I'm a little leary about.
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Heartwoods are terrible with results.
I was just looking at a crossbow I made with one a few months back...
46DI
40SSI
22HCI
21 Mana leech (Are you serious?)
I mean why do they make things with such LOW intensity? It's just kinda stupid. When I make bows on TC I run my script that makes em and throws the junk ones to the bower. I run that overnight w/ like 50k wood in his bank to hope I wake up to something good to use lol.
Heck. I made a kryss w/ a copper runic like 5 months ago and randomly sold it for 20mil. From a 25k runic... UO really needs to fix things. But when imbuing comes out it will be forgotten about anyways.
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OMG what is this about a Wraith Archer? You run the craziest templates. What in god's name!? I'd never even think to experiment with one. I'd have to see it in action first hand myself. I mean mobility is crucial on an archer.
Do tell us more. :)
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I was just looking at a crossbow I made with one a few months back...
46DI
40SSI
22HCI
21 Mana leech (Are you serious?)
I mean why do they make things with such LOW intensity? It's just kinda stupid.
Actually ...
21 Mana leech is about right. Mana leech & life leech now take into account the Speed of the weapon. The higher the speed the lower possible leech. This is why you only see 100% hit mana / life leech on really slow weapons (Halberds etc) with no ssi etc... I know that when they made the original change to these leeches my Composite bow with 42 mana leech & 35% ssi became 23% mana leech...
Anway... also realize that for any archer weapon it will leech 1/2 as much as a melee counterpart with the same percentage leech...
Maximum amount possible to leech is 40% of dmg done.
What the "mana leech number" on your weapon is that EVERY HIT it leeches between 1 & "that mana leech #" of the maxium (line above)...
Example.. I do 100 dmg to a monster. My bow Has 30% Hit mana leech...
Maximum mana I can leech is 40% of 100 = 40 mana
Every hit with my bow I leech a random amount from 0 - 30% of that 40 mana.. so on average I leech 15% of 40 mana = 6 mana. THEN it gets halved because it's a Ranged Archery attack.. making the actual mana leech = 3 mana. If it was a katana instead it would have leeched 6 mana.
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21 Mana leech is about right. Mana leech & life leech now take into account the Speed of the weapon. The higher the speed the lower possible leech. This is why you only see 100% hit mana / life leech on really slow weapons (Halberds etc) with no ssi etc... I know that when they made the original change to these leeches my Composite bow with 42 mana leech & 35% ssi became 23% mana leech...
I know how leech formulas work. Archery weapons get their leech formula modified with an extra division of two of the end result, which disallows extremely high leech. Maybe I should have used a bow as an example with 26% fireball out of a heartwood, as that's my beef w/ em. It's just incredibly stupid that a heartwood runic will craft bows with such low mods (IE: 50% minimum intensity). Why would any sane player that does that system by hand want a heartwood runic kit, just to end up with junk in the 50% intensity range? They don't. Which is why heartwood is usually ran completely by scripters, because only someone with way too much time on their hands would do it w/o a script :O.
But that's really a problem with tailoring runics & saws also. You can craft a 2mr, 8lmc, 20lrc piece out of a copper hammer (35k) if you wanted, hit the armslore w/ verite on the fire resist, and bank off of it pretty easy. But why do they care? Imbuing will be above those runics, leaving them in the shadows.
The only benefit fletching runics will have is velocity & balanced over imbuing. Then again can you craft a bow with an Oak Runic, get balanced on it, imbue the crap out of it, and then enhance it to 40SSI? If not, hell, 30SSI is enough w/ an insane stamina increase suit, and the upcomming SSI bracelet, also not to mention imbuing a SSI crafted ring! :O
My wammys bow is awesome though. 35SSI Xbow with all 3 leeches, and damage. I run a complete 8stam, 8mana, 8lmc suit w/ junk resist (I don't take damage, I usually have a pet tank). Puts me at 190 stamina with bugged potions, 150 strength, and some crazy mana amount. Also rocking the "safety helmet" w/ 10%SSI & a 5%SSI DI ring. It's pretty fun. With imbuing I want to make a suit out of that wooden armor and get DI on it w/ the same setup! Wonder if you can do that?!
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Q: Are there restrictions as to what mods can be put on an item based on the type of item(i.e , armor, shield, jewlery, etc)
A: Yes. Whatever properties an item can normally have as random loot is what it can have imbued.
Exceptions:
You can imbue runic only properties such as velocity and balanced on bows and crossbows. It was easier to handle imbuing with bows and crossbows to do that, plus it felt more consistent.
Looks like kits will only be good for making base items to imbue or items to unravel.
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I burned a Heartwood kit looking for a good "all purpose" magical shortbow for my son's bush/archer. All 15 uses were Ranger's Shortbows (+5 SSI). I didn't get it... wanted 20+ SSI with Mana Leech and Damage... oh well, maybe next batch. I did get some interesting bows though ;D
My chance is 77% success and 29% Exceptional. I only failed twice, got 6 exceptional and 7 non (a couple are as good as exceptional).
Ranger's Shortbow
Spell Channeling
Mage Weapon -21 Skill
Faster Casting -1
Swing Speed Increase 35%
Damage Increase 34%
Lower Requirements 20%
Physical Damage 100%
SC -1 and MW -21 with SSI 35 makes this an interesting bow ;)
Ranger's Shortbow
Exceptional
Hit Life Leech 23%
Balanced
Velocity 34%
Faster Casting 1
Swing Speed Increase 15%
Damage Increase 40%
Lower Requirements 20%
Physical Damage 100%
Ranger's Shortbow
Hit Lower Defense 32%
Hit Stamina Leech 46%
Dragon Slayer
Swing Speed Increase 15%
Damage Increase 44%
Lower Requirements 20%
Physical Damage 100%
Ranger's Shortbow
Luck 85
Swing Speed Increase 15%
Damage Increase 29%
Physical Resist 8%
Lower Requirements 20%
Physical Damage 40%
Fire Damage 20%
Cold Damage 20%
Poison Damage 20%
Probably the worst one in the bunch
Ranger's Shortbow
Hit Lower Attack 44%
Velocity 30%
Swing Speed Increase 35%
Energy Resist 9%
Lower Requirements 20%
Physical Damage 100%
No damage increase, shame...
Ranger's Shortbow
Exceptional
Balanced
Hit Life Leech 30%
Hit Stamina Leech 30%
Poison Elemental Slayer
Swing Speed Increase 15%
Damage Increase 40%
Lower Requirements 20%
Physical Damage 100%
Ranger's Shortbow
Hit Mana Leech 14%
Hit Lower Defense 44%
Faster Casting 1
Swing Speed Increase 45%
Lower Requirements 20%
Physical Damage 100%
No damage increase, shame... but 45 SSI would mess up a mages day
Ranger's Shortbow
Exceptional
Balanced
Hit Lightning 38%
Swing Speed Increase 45%
Damage Increase 48%
Lower Requirements 20%
Physical Damage 100%
Balance, lightning, SSI 45 and Damage... heh :)
Ranger's Shortbow
Exceptional
Hit Mana Leech 19%
Hit Stamina Leech 32%
Swing Speed Increase 35%
Damage Increase 40%
Poison Resist 10%
Lower Requirements 20%
Physical Damage 100%
Ranger's Shortbow
Exceptional
Hit Life Leech 20%
Swing Speed Increase 45%
Damage Increase 42%
Energy Resist 15%
Lower Requirements 20%
Physical Damage 100%
Ranger's Shortbow
Exceptional
Hit Lower Attack 28%
Velocity 38%
Hit Stamina Leech 38%
Swing Speed Increase 15%
Damage Increase 53%
Lower Requirements 20%
Physical Damage 100%
Ranger's Shortbow
Hit Lower Defense 38%
Troll Slayer
Hit Chance Increase 22%
Swing Speed Increase 15%
Damage Increase 39%
Lower Requirements 20%
Physical Damage 100%
Ranger's Shortbow
Hit Mana Leech 19%
Ogre Slayer
Balanced
Swing Speed Increase 15%
Lower Requirements 20%
Physical Damage 50%
Fire Damage 20%
Poison Damage 30%
Ok maybe this is the worst one
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it might be me, but either I've had extremely good luck with getting my kits or the spawn rate has increased.
usually I only got a few kits a day with client crash's or OCR messing up. but the other day I got 3 Heartwood kits in about 5 hours, and lately I'm pulling a kit almost every hour.
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If one of you merchant types wouldn't mind... give me an idea if any of those Shortbows is worth selling, and what gold range it would be worth.
I'd really appreciate it. I have no clue. One thing I do know is there isn't a 45% SSI available anywhere according to SearchUO.
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it might be me, but either I've had extremely good luck with getting my kits or the spawn rate has increased.
usually I only got a few kits a day with client crash's or OCR messing up. but the other day I got 3 Heartwood kits in about 5 hours, and lately I'm pulling a kit almost every hour.
Yeah, a few of us have been trying to keep it down low. I was getting crazy amounts of kits but my numbers have dropped off you say you are still getting good numbers?
Ranger's Shortbow
Exceptional
Balanced
Hit Lightning 38%
Swing Speed Increase 45%
Damage Increase 48%
Lower Requirements 20%
Physical Damage 100%
Balance, lightning, SSI 45 and Damage... heh Smiley
that is super smexy btw. Id pay about 15 for it prolly. But im a cheapskate so don't take my word.
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I've been looking over these, and some other bows I've burned lately and I'm seeing that I can't get over 28% Mana leech on anything.
I don't know if it's just the RNG being unkind to me, but everything else goes over 28%... I might have to visit test center and check it out.
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I read somewhere that the leech percentages are linked to weapon speed. So slower weapons are more likely to have higher percentages.
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That might be it, but I thought it was like two groups, the fast group of weapons were under 50 and the slow group could go 50-100... thats why you see 99% Mana leech lances.
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That might be it, but I thought it was like two groups, the fast group of weapons were under 50 and the slow group could go 50-100... thats why you see 99% Mana leech lances.
This was all I could find;
Last Updated: Thu, 26 Mar 2009
Hit Life Leech and Hit Mana Leech chance varies based on the swing speed and SSI bonus of the weapon, and is halved on ranged weapons.
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Ok, I burned 2 heartwood kits on Magical Shortbows and got 28 Mana Leech maximum.
I burned 1 yew kit on regular bows and got 2 with over 40 mana leech.
It could be the weapon speed.