Thanks for the reply Gaderian. So i started with 91 Stealth, 100 hiding, and 55 ninja (40 real +15 jewel). I was in the suit that i scripted stealth with so i know it would work. I was only around the 600 mark with points because this is on a character with skills stoned off. I too am on OSI, I was in Malas, then moved to fel. I wonder if i was just too close to the houses? I am going to try it again tomorrow. I appreciate you doing some leg work so that I know it will really work if set up properly.