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Re: Progressive auto insurance ??? expereinces
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2013, 07:16:11 PM »
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I think geico has free road side assistance.  That comes in handy!
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Re: Progressive auto insurance ??? expereinces
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2013, 07:22:48 PM »
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I think geico has free road side assistance.  That comes in handy!

Nothings for free :)  ...  my quote added that at  $8.60 for 6months  for 2 cars,  well worth it imho.
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Re: Progressive auto insurance ??? expereinces
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2013, 09:57:01 PM »
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I would say make sure you have decent SUM coverage on your policy.  Thats the stuff that takes care of you and your family if you get in a bad accident.

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Re: Progressive auto insurance ??? expereinces
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2013, 09:21:42 AM »
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I would say make sure you have decent SUM coverage on your policy.  Thats the stuff that takes care of you and your family if you get in a bad accident.

SUM ??  whats that stand for
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Re: Progressive auto insurance ??? expereinces
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2013, 10:08:52 AM »
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Supplemental Uninsured Motorist I think.... I have a friend that was talking about maxxing his out before he did the STP bike race last year.  (I guess it works when he's riding ??)

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Re: Progressive auto insurance ??? expereinces
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2013, 10:40:17 AM »
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Supplemental Uninsured Motorist I think.... I have a friend that was talking about maxxing his out before he did the STP bike race last year.  (I guess it works when he's riding ??)

Ok am i missing anything on this quote anything you would change/add etc

2 drivers , 2 cars

bodily injury                        $25K/50K
property damage                  $50k
PIP insured and relative         $10K  0deductible  (florida thing amount insurance must pay your for medical no matter whos at fault)
unisured motorist BI stacked     $10k/$20k
comprehensive  on both cars  $250 deductible
collision on both cars             $250 deductible
emergency road services on both cars
rental reimbursement on both cars  $35 a day .. max $1050

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Re: Progressive auto insurance ??? expereinces
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2013, 11:15:37 AM »
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Wells looks good to me atm, but I'm far from an expert.  I've Statefarm for ~17 Years & I'm just now thinking about shopping around.  We are doing a refinance & insurance is next.   The only thing that comes to mind is that the deductibles are appropriate for you.  Generally the higher your deductible the lower your payments will be, but if your driving something expensive even a small fender bender can cost 1000's etc.   It just depends on the difference in rates & what your comfortable paying out of pocket etc.  I'll be doing this whole thing soon enough myself so I'll probably "An Corp" this thread eventually heh.

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Re: Progressive auto insurance ??? expereinces
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2013, 11:41:05 AM »
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Supplemental Uninsured Motorist I think.... I have a friend that was talking about maxxing his out before he did the STP bike race last year.  (I guess it works when he's riding ??)

Ok am i missing anything on this quote anything you would change/add etc

2 drivers , 2 cars

bodily injury                        $25K/50K
property damage                  $50k
PIP insured and relative         $10K  0deductible  (florida thing amount insurance must pay your for medical no matter whos at fault)
unisured motorist BI stacked     $10k/$20k
comprehensive  on both cars  $250 deductible
collision on both cars             $250 deductible
emergency road services on both cars
rental reimbursement on both cars  $35 a day .. max $1050



Just my opinion, but i would definately up the bodily injury and property damage. There's so many cars priced well over 50k now that i wouldn't risk it. Main thing, it's better to pay a little extra and protect yourself in the long run.


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Re: Progressive auto insurance ??? expereinces
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2013, 12:26:04 PM »
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Sorry to hijack, but I was reading and wanted to add to Alpha...I'm presently scanning in our mortgage application...locked in 3.375% yesterday! Considering when we start the process in Oct/Nov the rates were 3.65%, I'd say that I'm ecstatic that we were stuck waiting (due to my "self-employment" at a consulting firm)!
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Re: Progressive auto insurance ??? expereinces
« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2013, 01:01:45 PM »
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Supplemental Uninsured Motorist I think.... I have a friend that was talking about maxxing his out before he did the STP bike race last year.  (I guess it works when he's riding ??)

Ok am i missing anything on this quote anything you would change/add etc

2 drivers , 2 cars

bodily injury                        $25K/50K
property damage                  $50k
PIP insured and relative         $10K  0deductible  (florida thing amount insurance must pay your for medical no matter whos at fault)
unisured motorist BI stacked     $10k/$20k
comprehensive  on both cars  $250 deductible
collision on both cars             $250 deductible
emergency road services on both cars
rental reimbursement on both cars  $35 a day .. max $1050



Just my opinion, but i would definately up the bodily injury and property damage. There's so many cars priced well over 50k now that i wouldn't risk it. Main thing, it's better to pay a little extra and protect yourself in the long run.



Good point . bodfather.... this is what ive had for over 12years... but your right 50k isnt what it was 12 years ago.
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Re: Progressive auto insurance ??? expereinces
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2013, 04:54:46 PM »
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Its really important what state you're in.  State laws really govern insurance totally.  In new york, you'd have an entirely different looking policy.  My advice is get good liability coverage and make sure your coverage for you and your own passengers is at least as much.  Liability and SUM(as we call it in new york) are dirt cheap.  I recently got six times my old liability and sum coverage for less than 100 dollars more a year.

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Re: Progressive auto insurance ??? expereinces
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2013, 06:37:55 AM »
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EN, those limits are only at or just above statutory minimums. If you have any assets, other than your house and a decent job, you need more.

Consider this: you are insuring against your own negligence OR the negligence of another driver who causes you significant injury or death. You can buy life insurance to deal with your own death if you have dependents, and the transaction is largely the same, so your uninsured/underinsured motorist coverage should match your own liability coverage to the extent possible. Its likely these are capped by the carrier either at 500K or 1M.

So here is the analysis:

What are you insuring against? Its not a typical fender bender that you are responsible for because you made a mistake, its the accident where someone is killed, or worse still from a financial perspective, severely, permanently injured. $50K is nothing in that scenario. The insurance company is going to write their $50,000 check and walk away leaving you to deal with the mess. The claimant is going to look at your attachable assets to satisfy a judgment. In Florida there is no homestead limitation so equity you have is safe. I am not sure about your retirement savings, but I doubt it is safe. Your income is not safe, and your other assets are definitely exposed.

What does it take to get out of THAT mess: When you are faced with the scenario I explained here your analysis has to be what is my exposure and what does it take to walk away from this honest mistake that killed/maimed someone. Start with an inventory with the understanding that the claimant can and will pursue all available assets and will likely want to garnish wages if its not enough. Whatever the amount of your assets plus the value of garnishment is your exposure. Here is a summary of the Florida garnishment rule: http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/florida-wage-garnishment-law.html

When I look at case settlement I balance the likelihood of prevailing against the recovery to come up with a value of the case. If you assume that there is a reasonable chance that you could be found liable for an accident when you go to insure yourself, you have to assume that the likelihood of the claimant prevailing is 100%. Now your offset is the cost of litigation and the value of an earlier settlement. What you want to ask is: If I hand over my insurance can I walk away from the worst case scenario "unscathed" financially.

What the heck is Paul saying? If you are fresh out of college and have no family, and no assets, its OK to get the minimum insurance as long as you understand that in an accident that injures YOU and the other driver has similar insurance, an accidnt that is THEIR FAULT (and this is me repeating myself) WHERE YOU ARE INJURED, that YOU are screwed. If you have assets, a family, and a decent job, then those limits are not adequate. If you have $1M in assets, you need limits of $1M. If you have $2m in assets, your probably need something just South of $2M in limits. Once you hit $5M in assets you A) can't easily find more limits, and B) are probably good on the exposure side unless you start driving on playgrounds.

 

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Re: Progressive auto insurance ??? expereinces
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2013, 09:34:18 AM »
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very good advice paulonius thankyou...    and quite frankly i had not considered that aspect .. I have basically been rolling over the same insurances from when i had no assests no kids no car and probably no job either... 

On investigation... bummping the property and bodily injury to thier max.. 500k & 1mil  suprisingly isnt that expensive +$7/130 (per 6months) .. so i will definatly be doing that.

Now on the unisured motorist part increasing that to equilalent levels increase the price significantly.   So im going to have to think on what level of that I can live with. Obviosuly anything higher than I already have is good but now I've got more to think about than straight costs.

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Re: Progressive auto insurance ??? expereinces
« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2013, 11:54:33 AM »
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Under/uninsured motorist coverage is first party (you) insurance that pays you when you are not to blame, but the person who ran into you doesn't have enough insurance. The price probably reflects what people are buying in your area. If people are not buying insurance or are not buying enough, your insurance companys know this and will price accordingly. The pricing is a direct indication of the risk involved. There is real inequity in the idea that you have more insurance if you are at fault under your policy than if you are NOT at fault. The truth of it is that more people are un/underinsured than you might think, the insurance companies know this, and are not all that excited about letting you buy coverage from them for other people. If you can get UM up to 250 I can point you at umbrella coverage that will take it up as high as $1M.  Go to this site, call them, and ask them for a broker in your area. https://www.personalumbrella.com/
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« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2013, 12:24:19 PM »
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Under/uninsured motorist coverage is first party (you) insurance that pays you when you are not to blame, but the person who ran into you doesn't have enough insurance. The price probably reflects what people are buying in your area. If people are not buying insurance or are not buying enough, your insurance companys know this and will price accordingly. The pricing is a direct indication of the risk involved. There is real inequity in the idea that you have more insurance if you are at fault under your policy than if you are NOT at fault. The truth of it is that more people are un/underinsured than you might think, the insurance companies know this, and are not all that excited about letting you buy coverage from them for other people. If you can get UM up to 250 I can point you at umbrella coverage that will take it up as high as $1M.  Go to this site, call them, and ask them for a broker in your area. https://www.personalumbrella.com/

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