If its a small group of people who know what they are doing doom is great, luring the DF to the corner and keeping the bones cut. I got an Onry last night so it was worth it to me. I adverage bout 2 crap arti drops for every good one. I call good ones AOF, HOM, Orny, Spirit, Headress, vile ring, dancer leggings. I didn't die last night till they started pulling 2-3 dark fathers out at a time and letting all the spawn build up. I just left then.