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Casa de TrailMyx => Hardware Design => Computer Rigs => Topic started by: Cerveza on January 04, 2011, 09:38:08 AM
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Items can be found HERE (http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=7194652)
Ok, I'm going to list out parts that I'm going to use to rebuild my old PC.
I'll keep this first post updated with any changes along the way.
Feel free to post comments, likes, dislikes, etc...
I came up a little over my $500.00 limit, but this includes a Hard Drive and OS I wasn't planning on. Had to compromise 4GB of ram from 8G to 4G as well. I may have a little play room to go 8G ram, but I think I'll try to sneak a 23" monitor in there.
Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131646
ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 AM3 AMD 880G SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard $119.99
CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103851
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT55TFBGRBOX $179.99
RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145251
CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model TW3X4G1333C9A $49.99
OS:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM $99.99
Hard Drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $89.99
DVD/CD Burner:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106335
LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS424-98 LightScribe Support $25.99
Total: $565.94
- $10.00 Mail in on MB
- $10.00 Mail in on RAM
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Total: $545.94
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Whatcha gonna do about a video card?
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Whatcha gonna do about a video card?
UO isn't all that graphics intensive ROFL... That's the only thing I play on my PC. Later on, if I ever get a game requiring graphics, I'll just add in an ATI card.
Right now, I think the onboard graphics will suffice... unless anyone knows any better? The MB uses this:
ATI Radeon HD 4250 build-in 128MB DDR3 1333 SidePort Memory and has D-Sub + DVI, 1 x HDMI.
Here's a video of CoD: MW2 using the ATI Mobility 4250 chip. Looking at this I'm thinking UO should run just fine?
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If UO is all you play, you are going overkill to the extreme.. but I'm guessing you know this.
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2d graphics speed hasn't changed all that much over the years. It's still the same, and basically relies heavily on your cpu. And the x6 will be fine for it. :) I have the x4 and love mine, even tho I wish it was a bit faster overall, it performs very well.
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I'm pretty solid on the items so far. The only thing I'm waffling on is the Motherboard. I'm debating which on-board graphics to go with.
I definitely want the USB 3.0 and SATA 6G. Almost everything comes with 8 channel audio now. In addition, since I'll be using on-board video for a while (for ever?) I want something that is decent for the limited gaming I do with this system.
What I don't need for a Motherboard is the CrossfireX or any dual video card stuff. I tried that once and was very disappointed with it. The trouble to benefit ratio was severely skewed towards trouble.
Everything else is pretty much a lock. 4GB should be enough RAM for my needs, and if I need more I can get 2 more sticks of the same raising it to 8GB. The Hard Drive and DVD/CD Burner are both locks as well unless someone can show me something better for the price. The CPU seems like the absolute best at that price range, and from what I've read the stock cooling works awesome for them. I would like a heat pipe on it instead of fan, but I'm not sure I want to start adding in stuff like that.
If you look at my WISHLIST (http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=7194652) you'll see a monitor in there as well. The on-board video will support dual monitor and I'm trying to sneak in another one to go with my 19" Samsung. This is something I haven't researched as much. Does it look like a good one for the price?
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I hope someone can answer this....
Since I won't be getting a video card soon (ever?) is there a big difference between the ATI Radeon HD 4250 and the 4290's?
That will determine which Motherboard I end up with. There's one that's about $40.00 more and the only real difference is the on board video.
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The core clocks are different. 500 for the 50 and 700 for the 90. Probly not a ton of difference other than that. I didn't read closely tho. They both suck, one just sucks a little less. :)
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I may be putting this system on order tomorrow...
Any last thoughts?
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Did i send you the correct address to send the items to? lol. It looks good and for what you need i would stay with the on board video. At a later date if you need more video power you can buy a seperate card.
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Trigger Pulled.
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Final Cost?
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I'm liking my new GTX460. Makes WoW like feel like budda!
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Final Cost?
Exactly the wishlist. Just moved it to shopping cart and checked out.
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Arrived yesterday...
Why I didn't get a bigger monitor a long time ago is beyond me. This thing is just a 23" but it seems like it's HUGE compared to my ole 19"
I'm running UO at 1200x800 and it's awesome. I had to speed up my mouse a bit cause it's got so much darn room to cover dragging stuff now!
I'll work on the rest during the upcoming weekend.
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Nice. I love my 19" at 1280x1024 though.. I can't imagine having a bigger one. I don't think I'd like it for gaming, especially for FPS.. prefer the smaller screen.
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You wouldn't say that if you played on a 28" at 1600x1200. Or if you had 3 of them and stretched your desktop AND games across all 3... :)
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Nice. I love my 19" at 1280x1024 though.. I can't imagine having a bigger one. I don't think I'd like it for gaming, especially for FPS.. prefer the smaller screen.
The monitor is running 1920x1080... I meant I had expanded the UO play window to 1280x800 using #cliresX. Man It's cool as heck to see my entire castle on one screen!
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You wouldn't say that if you played on a 28" at 1600x1200. Or if you had 3 of them and stretched your desktop AND games across all 3... :)
Oh no doubt it'd have it's uses.. Watching a ton of clients would be AWESOME to the max.. but for other games Idk.. Especially playing COD and CS, love the 19". I'm sure I'd get use to it eventually though
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I roll 6720x1050 as my resolution :P
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I roll 6720x1050 as my resolution :P
Careful, you're going to need a bigger desk....
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Careful, you're going to need a bigger desk....
Nah...Ergotron DS100 for 3 of them...a couple boxes stacked on top of my tower for the 4th one. Once I clean up my room a little bit, I'll take a picture of my setup with a new camera!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824994016&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Accessories+-+Monitors-_-Ergotron-_-24994016
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Ok so this was much easier then I thought...
Hardware went well. I took a long time in completely stripping down my case and completely cleaning everything.
I put in all the new components and routed cables (power, front panel and data) to keep things really clean. When it was all together I did the first startup and it worked great.
Got into bios and made the CD the boot device and installed Win7. Went without a hitch. It recognizes my old WinXP drive as D: like I'd hoped. I took some time before to reset passwords and stuff on the things I was going use... Now I'll leave the D: drive in for a while to get the stuff I need from it.
The only thing not working at this point is UOCartographer. I get an error that's well documented over at stratics.
Cannot locate all maps.
Press OK to generate missing map files. This may take some time.
If you are currently running UOAM, please close it before continuing.
After I hit OK I get this
Something had some of the client files locked!
Please close all UO related applications and restart UOC.
I hit OK for that and it looks like it's converting maps.... but when I load it I only get a black screen.
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First off, take some pictures of the new comp! I always enjoying seeing the hardware! Second...make sure you have everything set up for Admin mode when running UOC, UO, UOA, Razor, etc. If you're still having issues, just post on Stratics and someone will answer. Everyone there seems to have a hard on for UOC so you can actually get decent help over there! :)
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Run Cartographer in administrator if you are not, if you still have the same problem, try right clicking on the executable and set it to XP compatibility. Also, as it says, make sure UO is closed.
As you may know, or maybe it's just me who has this issue, sometimes starting cartographer you get the black screen until you change facets, so make sure that isn't the problem.
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I tried everything with cartographer... turns out it was the game directory. I set permissions on the game folder to "anyone can do anything" and cartographer was able to get all the file data.
I plugged in the second monitor and booted. The system recognized it and set it up perfectly. It even knew what type of monitor it was and set the resolution for it correctly.
This turns out to be a very good thing. Win7 backgrounds have that one that rotates pictures every 30 minutes... I had these really beautiful pictures. With two monitors it puts the same picture on both. My wife saw the difference in clarity between the two and says "Why don't you get another new one?"
Twin 23" monitors are in my future.
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I tried everything with cartographer... turns out it was the game directory. I set permissions on the game folder to "anyone can do anything" and cartographer was able to get all the file data.
Nice on the monitors, but this is quite nice as well.. I've known several people who have had issues with Cartographer. Maybe this is their problem?
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It surely can be. With any operating system that uses these silly permissions that is. My symptom was the error message when creating the files, and a black screen when running.
I guess it was that UOCartographer was trying to rebuild the maps but it didn't have "rights" to the files in the >EA Games>UO directory. When I changed the permissions to that folder, the next time I loaded UOCartographer it made the files fine and everything worked.
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thats the same problem i was having, thats why i decided to do a complete reinstall of uo and cart. worked after that.
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Probably installed with permissions allowing UOCart to access the directory.
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yea, of course. After i spend all night reinstalling and patching you find a simple way to fix it! lol
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So if I do decide to add a video card....
Since the motherboard has ATI on it already, I'm assuming I should just get an ATI Video Card as well, to avoid doubling up on drivers? It's PCI Express 2.0 x16 and unfortunately Asus only has 2.1 for their ATI cards. I'd really like to stick with the same company for MB and Video, oh well.
Hows THIS ONE (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102873) look?
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This is actually a little confusing.
The Asus site shows a card as being 2.1 while it's 2.0 on tigerdirect and 2.1 on newegg.
Another card is 2.0 on Asus, 2.1 on newegg and 2.0 on tigerdirect.
*Actually, after reading a little more, it doesn't matter at all. You can use a 2.1 card in a 2.0 slot.
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Ya was gonna say you should be able to. Don't you just play UO though? Why you need a good graphics card?
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Oh I don't. I don't need a lot of stuff LOL.
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You still most likely will most likely have two sets of drivers unless the cards are identical - but will probably save on support files. I'd check to see that 2 ATI config programs are not loading.
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Since I can go with 2.1, then I might think about THIS CARD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121363).
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How many monitors will you be using? I do recommend sticking with the same companies (nVIDIA vs ATi) just so that if you have issues they can't blame it on the other guy so to speak. I'd recommend a card that has a lifetime warranty if possible just to alleviate any potential headaches. It's been awhile since I've looked at ATi cards so I'd have to do a little more research before suggesting one
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See, I knew if I just waited, something would come along.
Guy posted on the work email for sale thingy... A pair of eVGA GeForce 8800 GT with 512MB.
I have two of these video cards for sale, used. Original box included, I think each has all the original cables/adapters except for the DVI to VGA converter it came with.
Both cards came from working machines and have never been overclocked or run hot. Just light to moderate gaming usage. Purchased in Feb 2008 and used until about Jan 2011.
Perfect card for a budget gaming rig or as a spare replacement.
Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-512-P3-N801-AR-GeForce-512MB-Graphics/dp/B0010T8XFY
Asking $35/ea or $60 for the pair. Reasonable offers also accepted.
Emailed him and he has them available. Mine, all mine!
I only have the one slot so I'll put one in my PC to upgrade from the motherboard video (which has been good enough) and put the other one in my son's PC as an upgrade to his 6600GT. I can move the 6600GT to my father's PC to upgrade from his motherboard video.
I think $60 is a great price for a pair of 8800 GT's... think so?
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Definately a good price !! To bad Twinkle McNugget was not here to disagree with me on this being a good buy !! :)
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A good price for sure.
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Okay, latest on my pc.
Haven't gotten around to putting the video card in. I've had some power problems that screwed something up with my PC.
I've had a couple times that required multiple (like 50+) reboots to get back to win 7 screen.
I bought an APC BackUPS ES 750 to help with the weird power outages. It's awesome. Connects to PC and you can set up how long to run on UPS and it monitors everything including how much power your using. Got it for a nice price on sale at Office Depot.
Still had some random blue screens and crashes. I suspected ram. I took out one of my chips and ran with only one and things seemed to stabilize. I ran both sticks in NON-dual channel (ran them in 1-2 instead of 1-3 for dual channel) and ran pretty good. Still got a reboot though.
Ordered some G.Skill ECO (1.35v) ram, 4G of the 12800 (1600) to replace my 1333 sticks. Put them in dual channel and have run solid for over a week. Very happy with the purchase.
Same order I got a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus heatsink/heatpipe/fan for my CPU. I'm just tired of hearing the default tiny fan spinning at 6000rpm all the time. I was going to have it put in as I haven't done it before, but they wanted $45 to do it. I felt I could learn for that price.
Installation went really smooth. As to the cooler itself, couldn't say more about it. Awesome. Works for like every chipset out there!
Here's some real numbers:
Stock Fan
27*C (78*F) on the cores
40*C (104*F) on the cpu
5921rpm CPU fan
Hyper 212 Plus
20*C (68*F) on the cores
34*C (93*F) on the cpu
1864rpm CPU fan
The 120mm fan is virtually silent. Cooled the cpu down by 10 degrees and turned it into an almost silent machine.
I'll see how things go, but I might have finally gotten all the gremlins out. If it stays up for a week or so I'll toss in that video card ???