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Need Computer info
« on: February 06, 2016, 12:29:44 PM »
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So with tax season here.i want a new comp that cant handle events on osi shards My currant one isnt bad at all by any means but i lag 2 step dialup style .With a 100 Dl and 18 to 25 up http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4984830945   
So with that said   the pic included is my system now  i run 1 graphic card with the onboard one also 

i dont want to upgrade cause Hp boards only upgrade so much I have a 1500 cash limit to speed on a new comp, I need one where i dont two step at event with a Single client or multi clients Any help Is much appreciated  Thx for help !!

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Re: Need Computer info
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2016, 02:12:06 PM »
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Well, you need to supply some use information...
how many things do you run at the same time?
3 ultima accounts with multiple scritpts running?
netflix or some other streaming service at the same time?
At full load, what does windows task manager tell you your cpu/memory usage is?
vlc or movies at the same time?
how many tabs do you keep open when browsing the internet?

it sounds like you're maxing your CPU, and there is an upgrade option that would improve your performance by 40-60%

http://www.amazon.com/AMD-A8-3870K-Graphics-Quad-Core-Processor/dp/B006J420UE

this will fit in your motherboard, but you would also have to buy a new heatsink. I use this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0AJ3KD0684

it's the second best air-cooler on the market, after this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018

They are nearly identical, and should come with all the required stuff to fit your motherboard, but I would email them first to make sure it will fit on your board... they have THE BEST customer service.

you should look inside your pc and see if you have room for more RAM. 8GB is PLENTY for most things, but if you could fit more, why not... look for open slots near the RAM

And lastly, get an SSD...

So, to sum up... save the $$$ and upgrade for less. These upgrades would cost somewhere between $500-$600 here in the US.

*edit*

if you're really set on a new build, we can look into that... just provide some use details so I can better diagnose what's going on.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2016, 02:15:33 PM by lydaan »

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Re: Need Computer info
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2016, 03:05:23 PM »
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One client
No scripts
usally run vent & icq
Network is free and clear Only one uses the gaming one then there is the house one 2 diff modems
During events its at 80 to 90 % load
Right now im sitting with 3 accounts on No scripts  cpu is 60 to 70% uo only using 9 to 15 of that  
44% memory   uo using 90 to 140mb of thoses
0% disk
0% network being used
Durning events everything is turn off i should also say  no tabs open
ANd im leaning more on new one and give wife this one
Also cooling not a issues iknow system stays at 30c at full load for hours 
« Last Edit: February 06, 2016, 03:10:18 PM by bluepits »

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Re: Need Computer info
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2016, 03:36:22 PM »
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I would check your ping to the isp that handles the osi shards.
here is the isp info http://uo2.stratics.com/technical-information/server-ip-addresses/
I used that to get my isp to clean up the lag problem

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Re: Need Computer info
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2016, 04:14:08 PM »
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I would think this is a good ping to there server?   
min time=53, max time=59 ms, avg time=56


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Re: Need Computer info
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2016, 06:54:23 PM »
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true that is very good packet lost

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Re: Need Computer info
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2016, 10:48:31 PM »
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So, next biggest question: Do you 3d game? WoW or any newer 3d game? this is important because the graphics card, or lack there of comes into play...

I currently also run an AMD APU (A8-3650 3.5Ghz), and have 0 problems running 3 UO accts with a handful of scripts running WHILE watching Netflix, and having somewhere between 10-30 Chrome Tabs open. I do have 16gb of RAM which helps a bit, mostly just more tabs tabs open.

right now I have about 15 tabs open, and netflix and the three ultima accts running and am at ~60% CPU, and 4.5GB Memory used.

Back when I was playing WoW, netflix and Raids were a bit taxing, but if I closed my tabs, I was usually okay. Just to give you an idea.

So after answering the "I need a dedicated graphics card: yes/no" question, we move on to storage.

I am a huge proponent of RAID storage... RAID 1 or 10 to be exact. RAID 5 or 6 are fine too, but most don't want to spring for a RAID controller and 5+ HDDs/SSDs.

When I was in school a long time ago, I had a bar band (new age New Orleans Brass Band) and had a bunch (thousands of hours of work) of music that I had written/transcribed on my computer. That (really "those" as I was running RAID 0) HDD died, and I lost a lot of creative material... This time around, I went with 4 HDDs so I could run RAID 10 which I think is stripes of a mirror, but that's whatever.. my only real point is now again, having hours of self produced music, nd now hundreds of hours spent on writing scripts, I am VERY comforted by the fact that 2-3 HDDs must fail before I lose data. So, if you create on your computer, I definitely recomend a RAID 1 setup so your data is safe, if you don't then you might not care, and 1 HDD is probably enough.

Still on drive storage, if you only want one and the amount of storage isn't a priority, get an SSD. This may lead to the wife wanting one, too so take that into account.

I'll check back, later


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Re: Need Computer info
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2016, 11:01:26 PM »
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Do people actually play smoothly on the large shard em events? I have a good computer I think, but once the fighting starts its a terrible place to be or maneuver.

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Re: Need Computer info
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2016, 12:16:53 AM »
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Re: Need Computer info
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2016, 01:42:38 AM »
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I recommning not using any AMD CPU and ATI Graphics.
The World already optimize their stuff towards INTEL, why would someone open the AMD grave and add more dead money?

ah yes... I too used to be an AMD hater... I had more *fun* money back then... AMD is always a fraction of the price for mininimal performance loss for the average user.

You, my friend, are NOT the average user  :)

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Re: Need Computer info
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2016, 02:58:40 AM »
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I recommning not using any AMD CPU and ATI Graphics.
The World already optimize their stuff towards INTEL, why would someone open the AMD grave and add more dead money?

ah yes... I too used to be an AMD hater... I had more *fun* money back then... AMD is always a fraction of the price for mininimal performance loss for the average user.

You, my friend, are NOT the average user  :)

The problem with AMD is they lost the track. Back then i was a huge fan of the XP Series (2000+,2400+2800+...) My previous Computer were an AMD Phenom X4 Black Edition 965 which served me for 5 years without much issues. The Problem is, while Intel increased data buffer, modern threading , virtualisation and other goodies, AMD had a winter sleep off.
Now AMD focus on onboard GPU to provide "on stack" solutions for Gamer. The problem is, that their GPU solution never can compete with a real graphic card with own CPU\GPU and external data pipes.
Maybe iam blind, but on modern applications i see no program (except you plan to do bitcoin mining, then ATI\AMD is better) which benefits by AMD exclusive. On the other side we have virtualisation, Emulators and certain programs which benefits von Intel. Ask yourself, how many AMD smartphones exist? How many Intel smartphones exist? Or how about network storages (NAS)? The more devices use the same kind of communication and technology, the more publishers of soft- and hardware will focus on that branches.

As far it goes to ATI-Graphics, my only experience were the x300 and 9200 ages ago and the drivers where unstable as hell. Crashes, Slowdowns, overheat, bluescreens on driver updates. No I not will trust em & ATI is from AMD. Iam not willed to burn money for something could be gone tomorrow.

Edit : Before i forget, even casual programs like browsers, flash player takes higher requirements. Having a powerful CPU cant be wrong...
« Last Edit: February 07, 2016, 03:10:17 AM by Crome969 »

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Re: Need Computer info
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2016, 06:44:17 AM »
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Nothing to big I play world of warship ,and some Sllr  And for big shard event This happens even with 20 people events. sometime with 10 people just in the room with there dragons on a east coast shard im ping really good to. it is still like this. I was thinking on going with this http://www.ebay.com/itm/COMPLETE-GAMING-COMPUTER-4-2GHZ-QUAD-CORE-RADEON-R7-1TB-HDD-8GB-RAM-/321934330035?hash=item4af4c808b3%3Ag%3AQwkAAOSwHQ9WWw4n&nma=true&si=%252BV%252BMGbnpNFDLAh30H8r0S7wTT0o%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557  but then im back with Amd again but the board is can be way upgraded  compare to some out there 
and as for having to build one i havnt built one in over 25 years,So im kinda looking for a out of the box one but im gonna look at that system crome maybe talk to local shop and see what they charge me to complete it


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Re: Need Computer info
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2016, 08:28:21 AM »
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Very nice build crome Im gonna go with your setup with alittle changes tell me what you think http://pcpartpicker.com/user/JoNnYbOYMccoy/saved/#view=vgmwrH

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Re: Need Computer info
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2016, 09:08:56 AM »
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Looks good. Well then you have a similar build, i also have windows 10 installed.

We may should let someone a bit more experienced then me look over, iam more a software and not a hardware specialist.
The build i used, i discussed with the SysAdmin of my company.

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Re: Need Computer info
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2016, 10:34:55 AM »
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I've always been an AMD user, but tbh when it comes to something like UO, I would suggest intel all the way. Intel CPUs just render UO stuff and handle client data better than AMD.



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