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Title: Home Use NAS
Post by: Endless Night on August 28, 2012, 10:22:59 AM
I havent looked at these in a long time....   any recommendations for a resonably priced  2+ bay home use NAS.
Title: Re: Home Use NAS
Post by: TrailMyx on August 28, 2012, 11:38:52 AM
I got this one recently and it's been working very well despite the reviews.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004UBU3SY/ref=oh_details_o02_s01_i00

Initially I thought I bought a turd, but after upgrading the BIOS, it accepted my WD Green 3TB drives.  So now I have a 6TB NAS that's worked flawlessly(even survived a fall when a fan fell on top of it.)
Title: Re: Home Use NAS
Post by: Newsman on August 29, 2012, 08:27:22 AM
What purpose do you have for a 6TB NAS anyway?
Title: Re: Home Use NAS
Post by: Endless Night on August 29, 2012, 08:54:57 AM
I got this one recently and it's been working very well despite the reviews.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004UBU3SY/ref=oh_details_o02_s01_i00

Initially I thought I bought a turd, but after upgrading the BIOS, it accepted my WD Green 3TB drives.  So now I have a 6TB NAS that's worked flawlessly(even survived a fall when a fan fell on top of it.)


funny enough i was looking at that one yesterday. Planning to set it up as a Raid 1.. so only 3tb total for me...   Hows all the media serving stuff on that not that i really need that functionaily at present but well it comes with it.

Was also looking at setting up my $35 raspberry pi as a nas server, it can do it .. but wouldnt be such a clean physical solution. ie no neat box.
Title: Re: Home Use NAS
Post by: TrailMyx on August 29, 2012, 09:00:05 AM
What purpose do you have for a 6TB NAS anyway?

I have all my 500 movies, and 400 disks work of TV series ripped to the unit.  I have a stack of 12 boxes of DVDs I can now store out in the garage and forget about.  So for me, it was time to clean up some clutter.  I get tired of my bachelor's pad decoration sometimes.

I believe I can fit my Blue Rays on it next. 

Anyhow, this box has been pretty flawless after I did the BIOS upgrade.  It just chugs along and streams high definition very easily.  It's pretty quite too and doesn't get hot at all (surprisingly, I suppose due to the green WD drives)
Title: Re: Home Use NAS
Post by: Newsman on August 29, 2012, 05:31:53 PM
how long did it take to rip that many dvds?  What kind of quality did the rips get?  What were the specs on the machine you used?
Title: Re: Home Use NAS
Post by: TrailMyx on August 29, 2012, 10:53:57 PM
Oh man, I've been ripping these for over 1.5 months now.  Everything is lossless, so I'm basically just copying the .VOB files and removing the residual copy protection.  Each disk takes around 15-20 minutes to copy.  I just have a 6-core Phenom with 16GB, so just about your average computer these days.  I may change to MKV at some point, but at this point I wanted to preserve the DVD functionality.  I did have 2 DVD drives hooked up, so I was able to rip 2 disks simultaneously.
Title: Re: Home Use NAS
Post by: Newsman on August 30, 2012, 07:36:10 PM
Are you ripping with cuda?
Title: Re: Home Use NAS
Post by: TrailMyx on August 30, 2012, 07:49:16 PM
No, it's called 1-click DVD copy pro.

Were you talking about using Cuda-cores to rip with?  If so then I don't think so because I'm not encoding.
Title: Re: Home Use NAS
Post by: Newsman on August 30, 2012, 09:18:22 PM
So wait you're just making dvd image copies?
Title: Re: Home Use NAS
Post by: TrailMyx on August 31, 2012, 07:56:08 AM
Yes, I'm a quality whore.  On my 1080p screen, I need to have the best quality I can have, so I sacrifice storage space for quality.  Thus the 6TB drive.  ;)

But many disks out there are still copy protected, so you need to be able to circumvent that protection to make the image.  I could have just as easily made an .ISO of the disks.  That was just another step I didn't want to take.
Title: Re: Home Use NAS
Post by: Paulonius on August 31, 2012, 08:05:31 AM
What system do you use to play the files to your TV?

Not entirely on point, but I just bought the Sonos system. Its pretty cool and easy to set up. I think it would work with a system like this to provide audio.
Title: Re: Home Use NAS
Post by: TrailMyx on August 31, 2012, 08:24:50 AM
What system do you use to play the files to your TV?

Not entirely on point, but I just bought the Sonos system. Its pretty cool and easy to set up. I think it would work with a system like this to provide audio.

here's the thread where I summarized my HTPC setup and tools:

http://www.scriptuo.com/index.php?topic=10015.msg84463#msg84463

I ended up having many more disks than I was aware of.  lol
Title: Re: Home Use NAS
Post by: Newsman on August 31, 2012, 08:45:02 AM
Yes, I'm a quality whore.  On my 1080p screen, I need to have the best quality I can have, so I sacrifice storage space for quality.  Thus the 6TB drive.  ;)

But many disks out there are still copy protected, so you need to be able to circumvent that protection to make the image.  I could have just as easily made an .ISO of the disks.  That was just another step I didn't want to take.


When I tried that route, ie: making .dmg and .iso, i saw an immediate drop in quality when i played from them. How are you storing it?
Title: Re: Home Use NAS
Post by: Masscre on August 31, 2012, 09:01:58 AM
Oh man, I've been ripping these for over 1.5 months now.  Everything is lossless, so I'm basically just copying the .VOB files and removing the residual copy protection.  Each disk takes around 15-20 minutes to copy.  I just have a 6-core Phenom with 16GB, so just about your average computer these days.  I may change to MKV at some point, but at this point I wanted to preserve the DVD functionality.  I did have 2 DVD drives hooked up, so I was able to rip 2 disks simultaneously.

He is doing a direct .vob copy to the HD.
Title: Re: Home Use NAS
Post by: TrailMyx on August 31, 2012, 10:31:56 AM
Unfortunately, even if you do a 1:1 conversion, if your usual DVD/BluRay player does up-conversion to 1080i, you may notice a drop in quality when playing from a HTCP.
Title: Re: Home Use NAS
Post by: TrailMyx on September 11, 2012, 04:27:38 PM
BTW, I just successfully managed to stream a .mkv image of Avatar (1080p - BluRay) without any framing or buffering.  I'm also streaming over my network-over-powerline connections, so that was pretty impressive.

So it looks like I can also archive my BR disks and store them.
Title: Re: Home Use NAS
Post by: Endless Night on September 11, 2012, 06:34:45 PM
BTW, I just successfully managed to stream a .mkv image of Avatar (1080p - BluRay) without any framing or buffering.  I'm also streaming over my network-over-powerline connections, so that was pretty impressive.

So it looks like I can also archive my BR disks and store them.

Powerline just does not work effectively in my house... I think my wiring is just to old and too much physical wire/distance to cover or something to that effect... transfer speeds were to low to stream even low res movies.
Title: Re: Home Use NAS
Post by: TrailMyx on September 11, 2012, 06:43:09 PM
My house seems to be pretty good.  The powerline adapters that I use (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002LITI8E/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00) give quality indications in the form of colored LEDs.  Most all transmission except from my bedroom all show "green".  When I look at the summary software, I still get sustained 50Mbps from my house that was wired in 1990.  You really need 4-8Mbps for 1080p.

ALSO!  If you do use these, don't run them through power strips.  This will kill your transmission speeds!
Title: Re: Home Use NAS
Post by: Paulonius on September 12, 2012, 06:03:23 AM
Just ordered them TM.
Title: Re: Home Use NAS
Post by: Endless Night on September 12, 2012, 06:26:42 AM
Powerline works fine for some spots but others just no way...

95% of my wiring was installing in the 1930's  ... I had to rip out the orginal glass values and install circuit breakers when i purchased the house, as the insurance company just didnt want to insure that.
Title: Re: Home Use NAS
Post by: TrailMyx on September 12, 2012, 06:45:27 AM
Just ordered them TM.

You'll like them.  I have 4 now.  One for my AV setup, one for my security system, one for the bedroom AV stuff and the master next to my server switch.  I don't really use wireless connection anymore except for the laptops and one of my Rokus.

I think they make faster ones now, but you'd still be limited by the quality of your wiring like EN is.  His wiring is probably aluminum.  Lol, well if his house is really 1930, that was really before the copper shortage.