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Title: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: Alpha on November 22, 2012, 07:28:42 AM
Ok.. so finally getting around to making a character to get me some of these crazy new items, but I'm unsure of where I should be farming.   It's my understanding that Shame / Wrong / Covetous are all spawning the crazy new items, is this correct?  I'm planning on attended AUTOMATED farming for items using CLAw to loot.   From the quick tests I've done so far Cove Level 3 is just an absolute pita & Wrong isn't much better.  Shame can be good, but the High end critters Unbound EV's or Eternals Gazers are a little bit "iffy" on the automated part bc of the difficulty.  Things like Earth eles, Mud, Clay Golems, Greaters etc are all easy, but I don't know if they can produce good loot over time...
Anyway... just looking for input from those of you that have long ago been there done that !!

THX !
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: TrailMyx on November 22, 2012, 07:40:50 AM
Lemme know if you do a speed comparison test of the new vs. old item dragging system.  I kinda added it quickly and haven't heard any feedback.
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: NObama on November 22, 2012, 07:55:30 AM
Ok.. so finally getting around to making a character to get me some of these crazy new items, but I'm unsure of where I should be farming.   It's my understanding that Shame / Wrong / Covetous are all spawning the crazy new items, is this correct?  I'm planning on attended AUTOMATED farming for items using CLAw to loot.   From the quick tests I've done so far Cove Level 3 is just an absolute pita & Wrong isn't much better.  Shame can be good, but the High end critters Unbound EV's or Eternals Gazers are a little bit "iffy" on the automated part bc of the difficulty.  Things like Earth eles, Mud, Clay Golems, Greaters etc are all easy, but I don't know if they can produce good loot over time...
Anyway... just looking for input from those of you that have long ago been there done that !!

THX !

Honestly, if you're going to do unattended, the best bet is the Cave Troll Guardians at the entrance to level 1.  They are easy, they drop the occasional Lesser Artifact and no one goes there because you can recall directly into more lucrative parts of the dungeon.
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: Alpha on November 22, 2012, 08:00:58 AM
Well.. The Cave Troll is just straight up too EASY heh...  Though you might have a point about respawning times which I hadn't considered.  I know the harder monsters (Clay, Mud, Greater E. Ele's, Fire etc) I can kill most of faster than they spawn, so perhaps a lesser monster that has a different spawning mechanic (Don't the Cave Trolls instant respawn bc you have to kill them to get past the wall? )  Anyway, I now those Crazy non cursed rings / bracelets that go for 50+ M aren't probably drops from low end critters.. somewhere in the middle I'd guess..
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: Canuker on November 22, 2012, 08:46:09 AM
I might have a look at the blood ele's, they dropped good stuff back when the loot was different but I am not so sure now.
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: bodfather on November 22, 2012, 08:49:13 AM
 Was reading on stratics to get the top end loot you either have to hit the low end levels with high luck or the top end levels (unbounds, bloods ect) with no luck.

It was explained if you're consistantly getting perfect mod jewels that are cursed/brittle you would need to lower your luck down to achieve constant flow of useable/sellable jewels.

Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: NObama on November 22, 2012, 12:03:29 PM
Was reading on stratics to get the top end loot you either have to hit the low end levels with high luck or the top end levels (unbounds, bloods ect) with no luck.

It was explained if you're consistantly getting perfect mod jewels that are cursed/brittle you would need to lower your luck down to achieve constant flow of useable/sellable jewels.



Interesting - thank you for that!
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: Black Widow on November 22, 2012, 01:57:35 PM
I've found the same to be true....
In shame/coventous:
Low end spawn...high luck....LvL 1 & 2

High end spawn... LvL 3 or better: 0-140 luck....and watch the good stuff roll in.
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: Black Widow on November 22, 2012, 01:59:40 PM
Moreover,

I use alot of the the cursed artifacts in skill training....great bonus !!!
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: HardY- on November 22, 2012, 02:19:52 PM
i have 2 very very high end shame items (any piece 100m+) i get all killing vortex with high luck 2500+, if ou want the reallly high end need be strong mob + luck but ifyou want items por imbue go  without luck, or if you want relic fram go low mobs with luck, and if you want plain items go mud eles without luck, i allreayd got near 20 - 30 20%dci or hci jewels without mods on the muds.

renember if you want items with 7 mods without curse, brittle  you need, kill a high end mob with high end luck.

for example

ring
nocurse
fc1
fcr4
lrc25
lmc10
mr4
phys14

Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: Alpha on November 22, 2012, 03:02:28 PM
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i allreayd got near 20 - 30 20%dci or hci jewels without mods on the muds.
When did you do this??  I know they made a change to the intensity of Shame drops not long after it came out which screwed up max intensity low number of mod items.   Hmm.. I can totally see AFK'ing Mud ele's bc they are easy..   Unbound EV's though would be a challenge just because of the spawning pattern.  Sure you can Handle 1 but can you handle 2-3??  I'd have to brainstorm, but I'm sure there's a good template for farming Unbounds totally automated style.   (I'll be at PC, but doing other stuff @ work.. so there for troublesome players.. but it's gotta handle the monsters all by itself heh)

Thx,.
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: Canuker on November 22, 2012, 03:27:10 PM
If they are disco'd and you get honor off my sampire can handle three of them.
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: HardY- on November 22, 2012, 03:29:34 PM
1- i got the drops on the start of shame, so idk if they changed.

2 - i use a sampire with arch (no parry) and heal, and can handle 2 - 3 without problems, i only have problem when a bastard lure a fire mage.
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: Alpha on November 22, 2012, 05:33:07 PM
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If they are disco'd and you get honor off my sampire can handle three of them.
Heh.. Cheater !!!   If I was using multiple accounts it wouldn't be a problem... unless of course your talking about some sort of Disco / Sampire solo character?

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1- i got the drops on the start of shame, so idk if they changed.
Yeah... they changed it so you no longer get single mods at max intensity basically...

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2 - i use a sampire with arch (no parry) and heal, and can handle 2 - 3 without problems, i only have problem when a bastard lure a fire mage.
Well your rocking a ranged attack and also using healing which is bandages aka... limited resource.  I could probably write something to stay away from 1 Unbound Ev & use archery, but it's would be a pain to try that with 2-3 for sure..... Ultimately the Healing is what would make me not go that route though.  I'm planning on tuning a template specifically for this 1 job to run like clockwork if I can pull it off heh.
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: Canuker on November 22, 2012, 06:01:28 PM
I have a disco samp but you can't get enough damage off to make that guy a solo artist.  She is a way of speeding up stuff for my other tanking main.
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: UOMaddog on November 22, 2012, 06:17:38 PM
ring
nocurse
fc1
fcr4
lrc25
lmc10
mr4
phys14

That is just ridiculous!
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: manwinc on November 22, 2012, 07:00:03 PM
The armor is actually where it gets ridiculous. 100 resists and  6~8 mods on top. 1000+ weight
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: HardY- on November 22, 2012, 08:16:47 PM
The armor is actually where it gets ridiculous. 100 resists and  6~8 mods on top. 1000+ weight

i dont have luck to find armor =[

my best is a legs with lmc mr dex int damage eater 15% but no resist.
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: manwinc on November 22, 2012, 08:19:14 PM
Covetous gives the Best Armor I've seen so far. Pretty much any "Artifact" Grade armor has Insane resists. I got a lesser with 70 Resists on it. Was like... Wtf...
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: NObama on November 22, 2012, 09:28:28 PM
Are uncursed shields with 5-10% SSI sought-after?

Also, do i have this right:  I go to Shame, fight low-end mobs with 2000+ luck to get the awesome 10% uncursed jewels?
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: Hoby on November 23, 2012, 07:04:09 AM
i generally use two sampires and a disco char.  2500 luck, or around there.  Unbound energy vortexes.  Get at least on legendary arti per drop, nothing worth keeping yet.  some decent jewels but of course their cursed or brittle, but make for a heck of a training suit.  Interesting may have to try mud ele's with high luck.
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: bodfather on November 23, 2012, 02:37:39 PM
  I saw a disco samp variation thing the other day doing unbounds. He was killing them quicker than me on a full samp and getting hit less. I'm not exactly sure what part he was lacking but it sure didn't show. *shrugs*
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: Alpha on November 23, 2012, 02:59:16 PM
Are Unbound Ev's really effected by an Air elemental Slayer??  Stratics Says so, but just wondering if anyone here has tested this...   Seems like 100% poison Air Elemental Slayer would be the choice weapon for killing them.

http://uo.stratics.com/database/view.php?db_content=hunters&id=3292

120 Weapon
120 Tac
120 Anat
120 Music
120 Disco
99 Necro

Something like that maybe?  160 Bard Difficulty though so not sure what that means for getting a Disco off on them.. but if they are effected by Air elemental slayer that would make it eaiser...
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: Canuker on November 23, 2012, 03:13:59 PM
If you were running the bard mastery for disco than that would help both with the disco and if you wanted to hit it with the spells, bringing a Ele slayer also helps with hitting the disco.  On my main samp I am hitting it for 164-184 Ai's but I don't see how that above temp could hit as hard so it would have to be slower I think without the honor bonus.   
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: HardY- on November 23, 2012, 03:20:17 PM
i'm runing a elf

120 weap (arch)
120 anat
120 chiv
120 tt
120 heal
99 necro
20 spellweaving

i use 20 sw for attune + gift with focus 5


EoO + divine + consecrate with max karma really make a big Diference on the damage and with chiv you need less ssi  very less di less hci on suit.
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: Hoby on November 23, 2012, 04:13:37 PM
i use a air elemental slayer.
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: Alpha on November 23, 2012, 05:09:08 PM
@ Canuker...If your using a specific slayer then your already at your max damage multiplier.  Perfection in this case is only good for luck & the mana boost when the critter dies .  Good to know that air ele slayer is the best thing to use.  Its really nice to max out the damage with only 1 mod.  Has anyone tried a 4/6 120 ninja mirror image spam for tanking?  Coupled with chiv and that might be all defense you need for even 3 U. Evs beating on ya.  Then just stack dmg output.  Hmm has anyone personally used wraithform?  Wondering if the evs have the mana regen to support constant ai spam...
Title: Re: Best spot for NEW loot system Farming??
Post by: Canuker on November 23, 2012, 05:22:42 PM
I use the Elemental slayer not an air as I made the weapons for general use.  My suit is running at 35lmc due to switching a piece out and never remaking the rest but I do have 130 mana and 88 DI with the weapon I use.  I've not wraithed it but it's AFK with 3 on you, I'd not be inclined to use the curse weapon also but I'm sure it can be done.

My temp for those is:
120 Anat
120 Bushido
100 Necro
120 Parry
120 Swords
120 Tactics
20 Lumberjacking as I stone Parry/Healing/Resist depending upon what I might be doing.