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Title: New T-Map Results
Post by: NObama on August 07, 2010, 12:01:33 PM
For those of us who are interested in statistics, I start this thread.

First Ingenious Map (Trammel)
1 x AW
2 x Balron
2 x Titan
1 x Blood

Took about 5 minutes to clear.  Thank goodness there were two ballys to provoke on the AW at once...

Took about 6 attempts to lockpick.  At one point, I got a message "You hear hissing and gas leaks out of the chest."  Or something along those lines, anyway...  I had already eaten a petal when I was doing the bard dance, so I'm not sure if the gas affected me in any way.

Notable Chest Loot:
1 x Skele Key
1 x Pardon
1 x Alacrity (Parry)
1 x Tasty Treat (Are these always going to be the low level ones?  Silly if so)
1 x Level 6 Map
6 x Essence of Achievement.  I feel as though I achieved something, so that's apropos =D

That's sort of funny.  If I get a Level 6 inside every Level 6, it's going to be quite profitable.

Had my stealth tamer standing by in case we needed a little dragon fire, but not required.  Also, there was an interesting loot spawn critter: "A grubber".  200 Magery and 200 Resist, 200 Hp, 1000 Dex, 2000 Int, non-tameable.  Which is a pity, because that sucker would be fun.

Oh - 36K coin, including spawn loot.  I blew up the chest after I reviewed the rest of the crap with Miffy's Item finder.  Next best thing to UOSA's grid view.

If chests are this easy to pick, I don't think the skele keys will be worth a darn thing.

72 (whoops, 73!) more to go.

 :)

EDIT: Template
Music
Peace
Provoke
Med
Magery
Picking
Carto

Suit: Sorceror's Suit with +disco jewels and a boom stick for MR
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Wilk on August 07, 2010, 12:16:06 PM
Wow, very nice loot!
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: NObama on August 07, 2010, 10:32:08 PM
And lost it all because some jackass lured monsters to Luna while I was afk.  That's a griefing tool that needs patching.
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: NObama on August 08, 2010, 04:56:33 PM
Map #2:

1 Tasty Treat
6 Essence of Achieve
1 Level 6 T-Map

There was also something called "A Pile of Dust", which eventually disappeared before I grabbed it.  Not sure if that came from casting TK on the chest or what...

I'm using UOSA to find the spot, 2D to dig it up. 

Still 73 to go...

=P
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Khameleon on August 08, 2010, 05:32:41 PM
did you fail a lock picking attempt?  if you fail or break a lock pick, there is a chance an item will break.. that sounds like what happened.
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Masscre on August 08, 2010, 05:44:28 PM
Map #2:

1 Tasty Treat
6 Essence of Achieve
1 Level 6 T-Map

There was also something called "A Pile of Dust", which eventually disappeared before I grabbed it.  Not sure if that came from casting TK on the chest or what...

I'm using UOSA to find the spot, 2D to dig it up. 

Still 73 to go...

=P


The pile of dust comes from existing items.  There is a chance to destroy items in the treasure chest if you fail to pick it.
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Khameleon on August 09, 2010, 12:49:27 AM
ya what he said :P
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Wilk on August 09, 2010, 08:37:00 AM
Well, of the (10) level 6 maps I've attempted, the (4) I did in the Yew immediate area (3 northern Yew, 1 just east of heartwood) did not work, and (1) map was in the middle of the ocean obv was a no go.

The (5) malas maps worked without a hitch. I only got 1 phasing talisman, 1 pardon, 3 alacritys, 1 tasty of the (5) completed maps, plus 6 random essences each map.

These were all new maps I got from Miasma yesterday.
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: 12TimesOver on August 09, 2010, 08:48:10 AM
It just blows my freaking mind that this is the kind of shitty programming and planning that goes into a full production update of this game.

Why we all pay the money we do for such crap is beyond me nevertheless I'm the last person in the account cancel line.

X
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: NObama on August 09, 2010, 06:01:05 PM
Wow.  Ocean?  I guess I've been lucky.

Here's a quick thought, please tell me where my logic fails:

- Level 6 maps only came from level 5 paragon critters and the odd ML critter
- Previously, all of those maps had to be in tram or fel Brit, BUT
- Now, all of those maps will be either Malas or Ilsh

Is the only way to get a Brit facet Level 6 map now removed from game, or do paragons still drop Brit facet maps?
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Masscre on August 09, 2010, 06:16:30 PM
Good question and will the existing brit tram and fel maps be erased and redone or will they end up being rares?
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: baldielocks on August 09, 2010, 06:28:06 PM
6 lvl 6 tmaps done, now I have stopped. All were previously decoded. I posted on stratics about this
- avg 50K gold per chest (I milk the chest).
- 36 random-ish essence. ALL chests were doubles in an existing spot. Each pair produced the same essence.
- Failed LP on 3 chests, got the new monster grubber dewd. He does steal from chest, so you have to kill him to get it back. Each time it was only a ring though.
- Once got the dust, after two fails in a row.
- Hissing gas is either destroying item or releasing grubber. No damage to toon results.
- the loot bites. HARD. 72 items on average from a lvl 6 chests will yield 190 residue and 23 essence. I have found only a couple pieces with higher than 75% intensity.
- The 6 property jewels BITE. It appears there is a scaled chance at intensity for ALL properties. As usual, there is a very low chance for anything over 50%. Out of 6 items with properties, NONE were over 40%.
- 3 tasty treats, 2 mana phasing orbs, 2 alacrity scrolls (one taming!). One vine.



- Most of the new items BITE. only 50 uses? get real. How long does it take to cast 50 spells? They will be almost as widely used (in most instances) as firehorns. The additional properties are too low of intenstity, and too random, to use on a suit. Sash of warding will see a lot of use, that is it.


Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Wilk on August 09, 2010, 07:35:02 PM
Wow.  Ocean?  I guess I've been lucky.

Here's a quick thought, please tell me where my logic fails:

- Level 6 maps only came from level 5 paragon critters and the odd ML critter
- Previously, all of those maps had to be in tram or fel Brit, BUT
- Now, all of those maps will be either Malas or Ilsh

Is the only way to get a Brit facet Level 6 map now removed from game, or do paragons still drop Brit facet maps?

I've gotten my 17 maps off of Miasma, and I'm still getting Trammel maps. Unfortunately, none of my Trammel maps have worked yet.
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: NObama on August 09, 2010, 07:36:31 PM
Booyah - that's the problem.  I *guarantee* that those maps are borked because it's generating Malas locations on a Brit Trammel Map set.  Some dev cut and pasted too much code without modifying it appropriately.  

Test it:  Pull up the general location of the Ocean pin and estimate where it is in on the Malas map.
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: baldielocks on August 09, 2010, 07:52:28 PM
Nobama, have you posted that on stratics? That is a good guess.
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Wilk on August 09, 2010, 08:04:12 PM
Booyah - that's the problem.  I *guarantee* that those maps are borked because it's generating Malas locations on a Brit Trammel Map set.  Some dev cut and pasted too much code without modifying it appropriately.  

Test it:  Pull up the general location of the Ocean pin and estimate where it is in on the Malas map.

I still got 1 Malas map that was in the edge of darkness, or abyss.

Pulling up the general location and estimate? Heh, you're talking to a guy that needs his gm mining just to find map locations that are working. :)
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Outlaw Josey Wales on August 10, 2010, 05:34:45 PM
52 ingenious maps in i have goten 10 pardons 20 vines 8 phasing orbs 7 surge shields and 9 sashes 15 alacricity scrolls and 10 pinkie scrolls from fell ingenious maps.  To answer the question in advance how do u get fell ingenious maps go to kaladan kill ancient liches. I ve only had two maps that were not in the right location one is out in the water the other is under house.
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Masscre on August 10, 2010, 05:40:57 PM
+1 on rep for that little tidbit of info jose Thanx
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Khameleon on August 10, 2010, 06:23:18 PM
52 ingenious maps in i have goten 10 pardons 20 vines 8 phasing orbs 7 surge shields and 9 sashes 15 alacricity scrolls and 10 pinkie scrolls from fell ingenious maps.  To answer the question in advance how do u get fell ingenious maps go to kaladan kill ancient liches. I ve only had two maps that were not in the right location one is out in the water the other is under house.

I wounder if its under a house, if you had mining would you still be able to dig it up? although It would probably be trapped under the house and you'd never be able to loot it....
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Masscre on August 10, 2010, 06:38:50 PM
52 ingenious maps in i have goten 10 pardons 20 vines 8 phasing orbs 7 surge shields and 9 sashes 15 alacricity scrolls and 10 pinkie scrolls from fell ingenious maps.  To answer the question in advance how do u get fell ingenious maps go to kaladan kill ancient liches. I ve only had two maps that were not in the right location one is out in the water the other is under house.

I wounder if its under a house, if you had mining would you still be able to dig it up? although It would probably be trapped under the house and you'd never be able to loot it....
Another thought i wonder if it is under the house would the monsters be able to spawn?
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: UOMaddog on August 10, 2010, 10:01:47 PM
52 ingenious maps in i have goten 10 pardons 20 vines 8 phasing orbs 7 surge shields and 9 sashes 15 alacricity scrolls and 10 pinkie scrolls from fell ingenious maps.  To answer the question in advance how do u get fell ingenious maps go to kaladan kill ancient liches. I ve only had two maps that were not in the right location one is out in the water the other is under house.

where in khaldun are the ancient liches?? I ran all over there just now and couldn't find a single one!
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Khameleon on August 11, 2010, 12:58:40 AM
there way over on the west side.. near the blood pools.
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Outlaw Josey Wales on August 11, 2010, 02:27:30 AM
52 ingenious maps in i have goten 10 pardons 20 vines 8 phasing orbs 7 surge shields and 9 sashes 15 alacricity scrolls and 10 pinkie scrolls from fell ingenious maps.  To answer the question in advance how do u get fell ingenious maps go to kaladan kill ancient liches. I ve only had two maps that were not in the right location one is out in the water the other is under house.

where in khaldun are the ancient liches?? I ran all over there just now and couldn't find a single one!
  hit the levers to get into the secret rooms my friend
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Outlaw Josey Wales on August 11, 2010, 02:29:29 AM
52 ingenious maps in i have goten 10 pardons 20 vines 8 phasing orbs 7 surge shields and 9 sashes 15 alacricity scrolls and 10 pinkie scrolls from fell ingenious maps.  To answer the question in advance how do u get fell ingenious maps go to kaladan kill ancient liches. I ve only had two maps that were not in the right location one is out in the water the other is under house.

I wounder if its under a house, if you had mining would you still be able to dig it up? although It would probably be trapped under the house and you'd never be able to loot it....
Another thought i wonder if it is under the house would the monsters be able to spawn?
To give everyone heads up i sailed out to middel of the ocean were the map was suppose to be in the water mined water in a 8by 8 grid never could dig it up thought about heading to malas seeing if it corisponded with the quads for it there and trying but haven t done yet
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: UOMaddog on August 11, 2010, 05:20:48 PM
52 ingenious maps in i have goten 10 pardons 20 vines 8 phasing orbs 7 surge shields and 9 sashes 15 alacricity scrolls and 10 pinkie scrolls from fell ingenious maps.  To answer the question in advance how do u get fell ingenious maps go to kaladan kill ancient liches. I ve only had two maps that were not in the right location one is out in the water the other is under house.

where in khaldun are the ancient liches?? I ran all over there just now and couldn't find a single one!
  hit the levers to get into the secret rooms my friend

It's been forever since I've really been in there, details please!!! (screenshots would be awesome!!!)
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: UOMaddog on August 11, 2010, 05:59:21 PM
I went to both Khaldun and Reg Volom (Spectre Dungeon) in Ilsh and couldn't find ancient liches anywhere!
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Outlaw Josey Wales on August 12, 2010, 06:40:09 PM
52 ingenious maps in i have goten 10 pardons 20 vines 8 phasing orbs 7 surge shields and 9 sashes 15 alacricity scrolls and 10 pinkie scrolls from fell ingenious maps.  To answer the question in advance how do u get fell ingenious maps go to kaladan kill ancient liches. I ve only had two maps that were not in the right location one is out in the water the other is under house.

where in khaldun are the ancient liches?? I ran all over there just now and couldn't find a single one!
  hit the levers to get into the secret rooms my friend

It's been forever since I've really been in there, details please!!! (screenshots would be awesome!!!)

http://www.uoguide.com/Khaldun
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: UOMaddog on August 12, 2010, 07:47:59 PM
Been there done that. I was just informed that Ancient Liches were removed from Khaldun right after the T-Map changes. Also, you can no longer access the special dungeon from Spectre Dungeon where the other ancient liches were.

Checked this on 2 different shards...nowhere to be found =[
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: NObama on August 12, 2010, 07:50:54 PM
So - back to my question then:  Is it no longer possible to obtain fresh Trammel Brittania level 6s, except from inside Level 6 chests?  I sort of lost track with all the Khaldun talk...
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Outlaw Josey Wales on August 12, 2010, 08:48:43 PM
So - back to my question then:  Is it no longer possible to obtain fresh Trammel Brittania level 6s, except from inside Level 6 chests?  I sort of lost track with all the Khaldun talk...
ancient liches man look up wre the spawn in tramal easy thing to do
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: UOMaddog on August 12, 2010, 10:20:31 PM
So - back to my question then:  Is it no longer possible to obtain fresh Trammel Brittania level 6s, except from inside Level 6 chests?  I sort of lost track with all the Khaldun talk...

So.....back to hijacking this thread! Ancient Liches anyone?

JUST KIDDING!!!   :D   8)    :P  ;)   
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Khameleon on August 13, 2010, 01:28:17 AM
aren't there Ancient liches in the Silver serpent room in decite?
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Rheeanna on August 13, 2010, 03:14:17 AM
i did a level 4 (still only have 99.5 cart, have to go get me some more maps that aren't already decoded)

I got a skelly key, 6 essences of something or other, the tasty treat, altricity scroll (alchemy) and 20K
plus i just bag the rest for unravelling).  No map though.

I was hoping the skelly key was something super cool rare.  I just realize it helps with lockpicking.   (goes to read about this).   

PS  Thanks for these threads, they are very helpful
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: 12TimesOver on August 13, 2010, 05:25:25 AM
So - back to my question then:  Is it no longer possible to obtain fresh Trammel Brittania level 6s, except from inside Level 6 chests?  I sort of lost track with all the Khaldun talk...
I may be misunderstanding your Q Nobama but you should still be able to get level 6 non-Fel maps from exactly the same places you always have - Miasma, Various Paragons, etc, etc.

X
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: NObama on August 13, 2010, 05:49:21 AM
So - back to my question then:  Is it no longer possible to obtain fresh Trammel Brittania level 6s, except from inside Level 6 chests?  I sort of lost track with all the Khaldun talk...
I may be misunderstanding your Q Nobama but you should still be able to get level 6 non-Fel maps from exactly the same places you always have - Miasma, Various Paragons, etc, etc.

X
no misunderstanding.  I mistakenly thought that ilsh would be getting maps, so those sources would be ilsh or, in the case of Miasma, malas maps
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Outlaw Josey Wales on August 13, 2010, 02:22:15 PM
Been there done that. I was just informed that Ancient Liches were removed from Khaldun right after the T-Map changes. Also, you can no longer access the special dungeon from Spectre Dungeon where the other ancient liches were.

Checked this on 2 different shards...nowhere to be found =[
I guess i should of checked after publish went live but i was farming them up before we got the publish so i have big stock pile of them
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: beckwithalexis on August 13, 2010, 02:38:39 PM
And lost it all because some jackass lured monsters to Luna while I was afk.  That's a griefing tool that needs patching.

i heard people were releasing unicorns in luna on atlantic.
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: NObama on August 13, 2010, 05:03:43 PM
Unicorns nuzzle me.  I am Noble, virtuous and handsome.

 8)
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: TrailMyx on August 13, 2010, 05:04:48 PM
I miss the days when you could lure monsters through gates and whatnot.  That was fun fun stuff!
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: UOMaddog on August 13, 2010, 08:58:45 PM
OK, so to only semi-hijack this thread, could we start a list of places to get the different level T-Maps (let's be honest, lvl 6 is really all that matters anyways)
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: NObama on August 13, 2010, 09:07:08 PM
Level 6 sources, in order of ease:

1) Buy one from a player
2) From other Level 6 Chests
3) From Miasma
4) From Paragon versions of critters that would drop level 5 maps if they weren't paragons.  Titans and Blood elementals are the easiest, IMNSHO.

 ;)
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Masscre on August 16, 2010, 07:57:50 AM
I miss the days when you could lure monsters through gates and whatnot.  That was fun fun stuff!

Yea I used to gate deamons into lizardman and ratman spawns.  These where the areas that where slap full of noobs ussually about 10 to 20 noobs at any time and then loot there corpses after I gated the deamons back out.  Those where the good ole days of UO.  Also traping the spawned loot chests or trapping boxes and lying down on ground at brit bank lol :).
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: NObama on August 20, 2010, 09:21:22 PM
Interesting:  Two runed sashes in the same chest tonight.  Both are spell wards.
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Petkiller on August 21, 2010, 05:04:37 AM
I have gotten 2 skeleton keys once.  I am not sure if this has been posted but in fel once the chest is dug up anyone can unlock/loot it.  If your not in party with the digger you will flag when you loot from the chest. 
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: 12TimesOver on August 21, 2010, 05:27:06 AM
I have gotten 2 skeleton keys once.  I am not sure if this has been posted but in fel once the chest is dug up anyone can unlock/loot it.  If your not in party with the digger you will flag when you loot from the chest. 
I'm pretty sure that's always been the case with Fel maps.

X
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Rheeanna on August 22, 2010, 06:59:12 AM
kinda sweet when you can get cloth, a key and scroll in a level one chest! LOL
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: 12TimesOver on August 22, 2010, 08:16:29 AM
Just been working on my Tmapper Helper script a little so I did a quick Plainly last night just to get information, etc. Finding that it's actually not a bad thing for income. I got a tasty treat, bunch of regs, and of course the standard 5k gold plus another plainly (not that I needed another lol). I didn't realize the tasty's dropped in all levels. Coolness for about 2 minutes of effort, not that I intend to spend a lot of time doing Plainly tmaps.

Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Rheeanna on August 22, 2010, 08:36:39 AM
i was doing them to get some completed ones to make the wall map for my house.   

Still, i mean, its awesome they have actual loot LOL :P

I still have trouble with level 6 with my son helping me out by running a tamer.
The plus side is the potential extra items of specials (I have the mana orb, a sash, and a shield).
But it seems like a lot of work for 35K and those items
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: NObama on August 22, 2010, 08:43:11 AM
Once you get it down, it's pretty quick.  Particularly working with a tamer.

Toon #1: Disco/Provoke/T-hunter
Toon #2: Stealth tamer hidden with a GDrag.

Cake.
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Rheeanna on August 22, 2010, 01:18:04 PM
ok i'll tell my son to work up his stealth and hiding

Gdragon?   I can go read up on that but what does the G stand for?
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: Cerveza on August 22, 2010, 01:19:23 PM
Greater Dragons
Title: Re: New T-Map Results
Post by: NObama on August 22, 2010, 01:49:25 PM
ok i'll tell my son to work up his stealth and hiding

Gdragon?   I can go read up on that but what does the G stand for?

To be clear:  I only need hiding stealth because I'm running both toons myself.  With a real, live person running the tamer, invis should be fine.