Question about unraveling.

[TrailMyx]

Ok, so now there's so many expert imbuers out there, perhaps it would be a better time to ask about what item properties give what score.  Are there item properties that don't add to the total? 

I believe I have a way to do this computation in the CLAw with little overhead, so I just need to know what should be added to the items "unraveling score".

Details appreciated!

[cgeorgemo]

I don't believe SSI adds to an items score from some testing I did on TC

[TrailMyx]

I don't believe SSI adds to an items score from some testing I did on TC

ok, that's one.  Any more?  

How about stat/skill increases, like Strength or Magery?

[cgeorgemo]

I don't believe SSI adds to an items score from some testing I did on TC

ok, that's one.  Any more?  

How about stat/skill increases, like Strength or Magery?

Skill increases add to the score as do stat increases.
Now that I think about it I want to double check SSI because I might be remembering wrong. I'll jump on TC and recreate what I did before when I get home from work.

[TrailMyx]

Skill increases add to the score as do stat increases.

So the question becomes converting those to intensities.  If you have Fire Resist at 9%, how does this convert to a percentage total intensity?  I was reading on Stratics somewhere where the computation was: 9%/15% = 60% total intensity.  I guess I'll have to do some more homework.

[Wilk]

I believe someone was working on a calculator for the intensities. Let me see if I can did it up.

[Wilk]

here's the link for the guy that was putting the calculator together. I haven't tested it since he initially put it up though.

http://personal.inet.fi/cool/imagess/Imbu/imbu/imbu.html

[TrailMyx]

Now that's what we're talking about!!

+1 KARMA FOR WILK!

[Masscre]

Before you get too deep in TM.  If the resists do not total up to a certain point resists are no counted in the intensity scale.  So for instance you have 5 ph 6 fire 7 cold 3 poison and 5 energy then they count as nill.  So with the item being eceptional you are able to add 5 more properties at 100% intensity.  If that was not at all understandable.  Let me know and I will try explaining it a different way.

[TrailMyx]

You see, this is why I've stopped and started this.  Ugh, I will not upgrade, I will not upgrade, I will not upgrade!  lol.

[TrailMyx]

Oh and also I'm determining that whatever number I come up with is going to be and estimate.  Since there seems to be differences based on item base resources. 

[Toptwo]

This was just posted up at stratics, and I stole it for us...We will hafta look into this and see if this guys figures are sound, but on a quick look they appear to be...it might give us some insite as to what to do, or at least how to figure. Here is the calculations:

After Pub62, the magic intensity calculation is changed for unravelling "imbued" stuff.
Obtaining Relic Fragment from "imbued" item became very difficult.
But the magic intensity calculation isn't changed for unravelling "non-imbued" stuff.

Example)
unravelling item property[weapon] :
"Imbued"
Damage Increase +35%
Hit Dispel : 40%
Hit Stamina leech : 46%
Hit Cold Area : 48%
Spell Channelling
Material : Shadow
Race : Gargoyle
Soul Forge : Queen's
durability is more than 50.

A : Total Magic intensity = 70+80+92+96+100 = 438%
B : Material Bonus = 20%
C : Race Bonus = 20%
D : Soul Forge Bonus = 30%
A + B + C + D = 508%
It doesn't change to here.

[Before Pub62]
unravelling intensity = 508% * 0.95 = 482%
Relic Fragment is obtained.
0.95 is correction rate by "imbued" item

[After Pub62]
unravelling intensity = 508% * 0.80 = 406%
Enchanted Essence is obtained.
0.80 is correction rate by "imbued" item after pub62.

[cgeorgemo]

This was just posted up at stratics, and I stole it for us...We will hafta look into this and see if this guys figures are sound, but on a quick look they appear to be...it might give us some insite as to what to do, or at least how to figure. Here is the calculations:

After Pub62, the magic intensity calculation is changed for unravelling "imbued" stuff.
Obtaining Relic Fragment from "imbued" item became very difficult.
But the magic intensity calculation isn't changed for unravelling "non-imbued" stuff.

Example)
unravelling item property[weapon] :
"Imbued"
Damage Increase +35%
Hit Dispel : 40%
Hit Stamina leech : 46%
Hit Cold Area : 48%
Spell Channelling
Material : Shadow
Race : Gargoyle
Soul Forge : Queen's
durability is more than 50.

A : Total Magic intensity = 70+80+92+96+100 = 438%
B : Material Bonus = 20%
C : Race Bonus = 20%
D : Soul Forge Bonus = 30%
A + B + C + D = 508%
It doesn't change to here.

[Before Pub62]
unravelling intensity = 508% * 0.95 = 482%
Relic Fragment is obtained.
0.95 is correction rate by "imbued" item

[After Pub62]
unravelling intensity = 508% * 0.80 = 406%
Enchanted Essence is obtained.
0.80 is correction rate by "imbued" item after pub62.

So it looks like a 15% unravel nerf for imbued items?

[Endless Night]

So by Reversing the math

relic = 482 / 0.8 = 602 i

602 intensity needed for an imbued item when garg at queens forge  .. quiet a change.

[cgeorgemo]

Yes it is since that is way over the line where you get the unstable message.