My new Ryzen build

[TrailMyx]

Tidus asked what my new build entails, so here it is:

AMD Ryzen 1700X 8/16(core/thread) 3.4/3.8GHZ CPU, $399
Gigabyte AB350-Gaming 3 Motherboard, $109
SanDisk SD8NAT123G1002 M.2 128GB Mkey (boot) $free (from old build)
SanDisk Ultra II 480GB SATA FLASH (Programs) $free (from old build)
Seagate  ST4000DM005 4TB drive (Users) , $119
Corsair 16GB DDR4 2133MHz (CMV8GX4M1A2133C15) (2x8GB), $114
NVIDIA GTX1070SC Video card, $398 (open-box.  not including $40 rebate)
Corsair CX750 750W power supply, $80
Roswill ATX gaming tower, $60
ThermalTake Contac Silent CPU fan, $25


Corsair Vengeance (9CMK16GXm2A2400C16) does not work!!!!

I originally started out with an ASUS Prime X370-Pro motherboard, but I couldn't get it to POST.  I then turned in that board for this one (Gigabyte) and also no POST.  Finally I got an ASUS PRIME B350M-A motherboard and no POST.  I exchanged the CPU and still no POST, so I changed from 2400MHz memory to 2133MHz memory and like magic everything started to work.

So I've got around $1300 bucks into this new rig (not including the 2 "free" drives)

[valen2.0]

gah beat me by 300 bucks TM

[TrailMyx]

I need to get a different fan though; this one is far from silent.

[cybercasper]

This makes me think I need to do a build myself once I get my taxes back. May ask for some help here since I have never done it before.

[Wiper]

nice build

[TrailMyx]

I tell you what though, I thought this was going to be the first build that I would fail at.  No matter what computer I've put together over the years, I've been able to figure out all the build issues and component failures, but man this one threw me for a loop over the last 2 weeks.  I was on the verge of returning all the parts and waiting until everything wasn't so "new".

But yes, this thing (for the price), really does scream!

[gimlet]

Well I learned a valuable lesson from you - check your memory and speed for compatibility!

[TrailMyx]

Well I learned a valuable lesson from you - check your memory and speed for compatibility!

Yes, especially since that memory was supposed to be on the accepted list! 

[Tidus]

Tidus asked what my new build entails, so here it is:

AMD Ryzen 1700X 8/16(core/thread) 3.4/3.8GHZ CPU, $399
Gigabyte AB350-Gaming 3 Motherboard, $109
SanDisk SD8NAT123G1002 M.2 128GB Mkey (boot) $free (from old build)
SanDisk Ultra II 480GB SATA FLASH (Programs) $free (from old build)
Seagate  ST4000DM005 4TB drive, $119
Corsair 16GB DDR4 2133MHz (CMV8GX4M1A2133C15) (2x8GB), $114
NVIDIA GTX1070SC Video card, $398 (open-box.  not including $40 rebate)
Corsair CX750 750W power supply, $80
Roswill ATX gaming tower, $60
ThermalTake Contac Silent CPU fan, $25


Corsair Vengeance (9CMK16GXm2A2400C16) does not work!!!!

I originally started out with an ASUS Prime X370-Pro motherboard, but I couldn't get it to POST.  I then turned in that board for this one (Gigabyte) and also no POST.  Finally I got an ASUS PRIME B350M-A motherboard and no POST.  I exchanged the CPU and still no POST, so I changed from 2400MHz memory to 2133MHz memory and like magic everything started to work.

So I've got around $1300 bucks into this new rig (not including the 2 "free" drives)

Love the build.  Definitely going to look at this as my next build if my wife lets me make a new computer

[Tidus]

This is what I was thinking about building.

[TrailMyx]

What video card are you thinking about Tidus?  With the Gaming 3, you can only Crossfire with AMD.  If you want to SLI with NVIDIA, you'll need to get a X370 motherboard. 

BTW, I counted all my motherboard manuals (list coming soon) and I've put together *at least* 36 different kinds of systems over the years.  I'm pretty sure I'm missing a few (like my first one AMD-386-40)(3 people) and another one I put together for myself and 2 other people.  I guess I love building new computers.

I was originally going to do dual GTX1070s with my first X370 motherboard, but after the build issues and also limited SLI support exists in Linux, I decided to just stay with a single card.  I'm getting 60FPS in crowded areas on Rift when I was used to less that 20FPS on my AMD FX from before, so I think I'm going to be OK.

Hoipefully with new BIOS updates, the memory compatibility will become better.  The Ryzen can handle 3400MHz memory, but right now I'm stuck at 2133MHz.  That's why I'm staying at 16GB.  I plan on using that other basic AM4 motherboard from ASUS in a future build, so I can migrate the slower memory to that computer once I find a faster memory that works for this gaming system.

[Tidus]

I was going to try the integrated graphics to see how well they perform before going on to a bigger graphics card. I like to test things like that

[BobOzarius]

TM, every AMD build I've ever done seems to have a bit of issues with the memory controller and large amounts of ram. I've always had to use ram that's a bit less than the highest available rated when doing a 16 or greater gig build because it puts a lot of stress on the memory controller. I either run the ram at a lower rated speed, or you have to up the power to the ram to get a stable build. I think it's because the memory controller is built into the chips right? I forget, it's been a long time since I've built a system. Mine is super stable finally but I always have to sacrifice a bit in the memory department to be 100% stable. Hopefully the memory controller issues have been worked out with the new chips and memory. 

[TrailMyx]

TM, every AMD build I've ever done seems to have a bit of issues with the memory controller and large amounts of ram. I've always had to use ram that's a bit less than the highest available rated when doing a 16 or greater gig build because it puts a lot of stress on the memory controller. I either run the ram at a lower rated speed, or you have to up the power to the ram to get a stable build. I think it's because the memory controller is built into the chips right? I forget, it's been a long time since I've built a system. Mine is super stable finally but I always have to sacrifice a bit in the memory department to be 100% stable. Hopefully the memory controller issues have been worked out with the new chips and memory.

Yes, you're exactly right.  And with the Ryzen, it's extra touchy since it's so new.  Sounds like relief is coming, but it's going to be up to the memory manufacturers to "tweak" their stuff a little bit to make the faster memory more widely useful.  I've read about people who have gotten 2400MHz memory to work, but nothing faster so far.  Also I've read about more success by using only 2 SIMMs vs. 4.  I'm OK for now; the ValueSelect Corsair 2133MHz stuff is good enough for now and the system performance is WAAAY better than my last gaming build from circa 2011. 

I generally don't push the performance envelope.  I might build alot of systems, but I generally don't overclock.  I've only done 1 SLI build in my life and that turned into a PITA.

[TrailMyx]

I was going to try the integrated graphics to see how well they perform before going on to a bigger graphics card. I like to test things like that

Hmm, everywhere I read says that the Ryzen 7 doesn't include integrated graphics, so you should be sure the motherboard has something.  Their APUs are coming soon that have Radeon silicon, but they are introducing the enthusiast CPUs first (Ryzen 7,5,3)

So your first test might be HEAD-->DESK as you realize you have no video.