When do resources get randomized...

[KilroyIsDead]

I asked at EUO and it said every time you visit it's random, but then does the server keep track of my visit versus larry's visit versus TrailMyx's visit.  My guess is that it's a server uptime randomizer but then stays that way all day.  Can anyone confirm this?

Thanks

[Masscre]

Whenever an ore vein refreshes after being harvested from, there is a slight chance it will change resource type. For example, a mountainside that yielded Valorite today might give plain iron tomorrow, and vice versa. Your level of skill does not determine your chance of finding a colored vein, it only determines whether you can extract the colored ore.

So if you completely empty a vein everytime it has a slight chance to change the ore type in that vein.

[Endless Night]

As masscre said he hit the nail on the nose.  Same goes for wood when you empty tree or if you 1/2 empty and larry and TM finish it .. doesnt matter chance to change at respawn/refresh.

[KilroyIsDead]

I don't recall the respawn timer or even know if it's published but if we assume 25 mins...

If I find a colored resource (Boy, does that sound like an HR worthy clause for the 1950s)
I should only take 4 or 6 resources
wait 25 minutes and return?
I should only take 4 or 6 resources
wait 25 minutes and return?
I should only take 4 or 6 resources
wait 25 minutes and return?
I should only take 4 or 6 resources
wait 25 minutes and return?
...I think this is a good place for a loop

[Endless Night]

I think respawn time is 5mins in fel and 10tram .. if i rember correcly or something thier abouts.

[12TimesOver]

I believe the respawn time is completely randomized between something like 5 and 20 minutes (don't know the exact numbers but I do know it's random). I also don't think you need to empty the resource square in order for it to respawn. In fact, my theory is that the resource square refreshes regardless of whether it has been mined or not. I have no tracked testing data however to support any of these hypotheses.

XII

[KilroyIsDead]

Ok, With the new miner that I referred to earlier I can run some tests and analyze the data

I'll run one account to mine half and one to mine to empty
I'll make sure the visits are spaced by more than 25 mins to make sure I don't empty a grid.

[Endless Night]

Ive been meaning to test this theory for ages.

Find a Frost or Verite Spawn... chop/dig 3/4 times dont mine it dry wait 10mins repeat.  I suspect it will not change.

Needs testing.

[Masscre]

I have also been meaning to try this also.  I have chopped on the same frost tree for 8 hours and it continued to give the same frostwood but at sever up it changed, but i have had other instances where at server up the tree was still frostwood. So i believe at server up is just like any other vein respawn chance.  I have noticed that if i completely clean a resource out each time that i have a higher chance for it to repawn a different color, but this is not data really just what i have observed after chopping around 2 million logs.

[UOMaddog]

I think I'm with XII on this one. Based on general knowledge of UO programmers, it would seem likely that they would have the ore spots refresh every 5-20 mins REGARDLESS of whether or not they have been mined. #1 because it would be easier for them to program, #2 because no one would know because we have no way of knowing what's in a spot UNLESS we mine it!

[12TimesOver]

The other thing to consider is code efficiency, why write routines that would engage subroutines only when certain criteria were met verse something that could just be blanketed. My belief is that the developers would keep it simple, resource square type gets randomly refreshed every x to x minutes regardless of state verse monitoring all resourcable tiles for specific activity then performing actions only on that particular tile. I'm sure I'm wrong but this seems more logical when thinking about such a grand scale of potential tiles.

XII

[UOMaddog]

LoL, though my experience with UO programmers is that they don't have a friggin clue. So I honestly don't think they would think it through that well. It's probably a mish-mash of codes snippets that sometimes work! That's what I've come to expect from UO programmers/developers!

[TrailMyx]

Sorry guys but I have to burst your bubble. My beetlejacker was modified at one time to automatcally not take all resources.  They still ramdomize after a while

[KilroyIsDead]

Boo Hiss!

Ok, I'll figure out another use for a database.

[Khameleon]

how about figureing out the exact time a NPC will restock there Regs