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Ultima Online Fan Board => UO Professions - Traditional => Resource Extraction => Topic started by: OMGBurgers on January 23, 2009, 06:41:59 PM

Title: Mining, Human or Elf?
Post by: OMGBurgers on January 23, 2009, 06:41:59 PM
I thought I remember there being a difference between the two.  Does anyone know what it is?
Title: Re: Mining, Human or Elf?
Post by: Khameleon on January 23, 2009, 06:55:33 PM
I didn't think there was a difference.
Title: Re: Mining, Human or Elf?
Post by: Cerveza on January 23, 2009, 07:04:14 PM
Elves supposed to find more gems.
Title: Re: Mining, Human or Elf?
Post by: OMGBurgers on January 23, 2009, 08:38:33 PM
i heard it had to do with getting more colored ore then regular, but you mine the veins out faster.  but i'm not sure what is true and what isn't lol.
Title: Re: Mining, Human or Elf?
Post by: 12TimesOver on January 24, 2009, 02:25:33 AM
Elves are supposed to have a higher percent chance of pulling a special resource from a resource square (ie gems or colored resources). For lumberjacking this means that you get 10 logs per swing where a human gets 12. I don't know what specifically happens to yield on the ore, I don't think you get fewer hits in a resource square though although it's hard to tell with mining since the number of hits per square is random every time the square refreshes.

In the meantime a human can be out a little longer because it can carry more. I always use Elves but, to be honest, I've never done any valuable testing.
Title: Re: Mining, Human or Elf?
Post by: TrailMyx on January 24, 2009, 02:54:16 AM
For me it was always about the logging, so humans make more logs.  That's all I needed to hear.
Title: Re: Mining, Human or Elf?
Post by: Khameleon on January 24, 2009, 04:10:45 AM
You Said Log
Title: Re: Mining, Human or Elf?
Post by: Pearls on January 24, 2009, 11:01:16 AM
To my knowledge,

Elves get more of the rare resources, so if a human would be mining on a valorite spot, he would get 6 valorite and 20 iron, while the elf would get 10 valorite and 12 for example. Elves get lesser resources then humans overall, althou the difference isnt really big. Gems has nothing to do with elves or human. I always use humans just cos they can carry more and dont waste that much time recalling around.
Title: Re: Mining, Human or Elf?
Post by: Cerveza on January 25, 2009, 07:08:54 AM
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Knowledge of Nature - Elves receive an increase to their chance of acquiring special resources such as colored ore when mining or special boards when lumberjacking.

I know humans gets a 10% quantity bonus when they chop and in fel that means 22 boards per swing instead of 20 but does that mean they get more or less colored boards when compared to the elves "knowledge of nature" skill?

In my humble experience, I've found that I get much higher yields when it comes to the colored ores and lumber if I'm an elf.

For wood - definitely elves; they get more chops per tree than humans

For Ore, however, the only thing definitive I've seen is more gems. My personal tests showed no difference between ore amounts or the colored/iron ratio (as the yield for ore is so much smaller than for wood, it's probably that the additional occasional ore for being human amounts to about the same extra they'd get from digging as an elf). So, it's better to be human as a miner, for the extra capacity before being overweight.

have observed that a human when he finds colored wood would get something like 80 regular wood and 20 oak for a total of 100. Where as my elf would get around 40 regular wood and 60 oak for a total of 100. These numbers are not exact. I was just trying to point out that if you harvest the exact same number of logs with a human and an elf, the elf will find a greater number of colored woods than a human.

humans get 20% more wood overall, but the elves get more of what they chop colored. Same goes for mining.

So if you were a human and chopped a tree in the example, you would probably get 90 reg/30 oak, and the elf would get about 50/50.

So depends on what you want. If you want more colored ore, logs and gems, then an elf is better. If you want bulk iron and wood, then human. For donations with wood you definitely want elf due to the huge difference in colored wood donation points. Well worth the weight difference when your bringing in more colored wood.
Title: Re: Mining, Human or Elf?
Post by: Kenson on January 25, 2009, 10:44:32 AM
elf you have better chance getting color and you get alot more gems
Title: Re: Mining, Human or Elf?
Post by: Khameleon on January 25, 2009, 06:12:56 PM
so.. what about fishing, would an elf get a better chance at pulling up a Pearl? or an ASOS popping out of a bottle than a human?
Title: Re: Mining, Human or Elf?
Post by: Khameleon on January 26, 2009, 03:05:03 PM
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Human characters will have a chance to get extra ore with each dig, while Elves have an increased chance of harvesting special ore types from colored veins (as opposed to finding colored veins).

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Human characters will get one extra log per chop, or two if working in Felucca. Elves, on the other hand, have an increased chance of harvesting special Lumber types.


Hope that Helps out out :)
Title: Re: Mining, Human or Elf?
Post by: omni on February 02, 2009, 12:48:22 AM
im pretty sure elves find more colored ore etc, my miner is an elf  ;)
Title: Re: Mining, Human or Elf?
Post by: Hardyz on February 02, 2009, 10:25:35 PM
so.. what about fishing, would an elf get a better chance at pulling up a Pearl? or an ASOS popping out of a bottle than a human?


No.  I don't think elves have a better chance of finding gems.

The thing goes that elves have a 30% (it was 30% I believe if not 60% but i'm 99% sure its 30) chance of pulling up a rarer log and/or ore.  A human gets 1 extra log per chop in tram or 2 in fel.  A human can also hold more.  In my opinion an elf is way better.  Unless you are pulling up regular iron ingots and boards you should go with an elf.
Title: Re: Mining, Human or Elf?
Post by: Khameleon on February 03, 2009, 01:32:50 AM
aye, your Human can carry more, But your Packy can still carry the same amount with your elf or human ;/
I went with elf for the special wood/ore.
Title: Re: Mining, Human or Elf?
Post by: tasslehoff on February 07, 2009, 12:36:16 PM
To my knowledge,

Elves get more of the rare resources, so if a human would be mining on a valorite spot, he would get 6 valorite and 20 iron, while the elf would get 10 valorite and 12 for example. Elves get lesser resources then humans overall, althou the difference isnt really big. Gems has nothing to do with elves or human. I always use humans just cos they can carry more and dont waste that much time recalling around.
actually you have a higher chance of getting gems with a elf for mining.i have tested it out.i  have a human miner on one shard and a elf one on another and there is a big diffrence  in gems received.
Title: Re: Mining, Human or Elf?
Post by: Masscre on April 28, 2009, 06:07:55 AM
Elves receive an increase to their chance of acquiring special resources such as colored ore when mining or special boards when lumberjacking

Human characters will have a chance to get extra ore with each dig, while Elves have an increased chance of harvesting special ore types from colored veins (as opposed to finding colored veins).

Humans have an increased carrying capacity above what is determined by their strength.
Carry an additional 60 Stones of weight

Humans have a better chance at finding more resources while gathering hides, ore and lumber.
+1 Logs in Trammel
+2 Logs in Felucca
+1 Ore when mining at random
Additional hides


Title: Re: Mining, Human or Elf?
Post by: pwner on January 31, 2010, 01:22:01 PM
I really like the humans.. Too more weight supported..
Title: Re: Mining, Human or Elf?
Post by: manwinc on January 31, 2010, 09:36:10 PM
Human all the way. Crank out those Ingots per Hour Baby
Title: Re: Mining, Human or Elf?
Post by: Hoby on January 31, 2010, 11:40:29 PM
Doesn't matter if your lj'ing and using the beetle jacker....err, so im told.... ;)
Title: Re: Mining, Human or Elf?
Post by: manwinc on February 01, 2010, 02:41:53 AM
It totally matters.

Output = Amount / Time

if your Amount Increases and your time is the same then your Output Increases.
Title: Re: Mining, Human or Elf?
Post by: Ozzy on July 02, 2010, 01:59:59 PM
all my miners are Human.....and i get tons of gems...so im thinkin hmmm maybe make half elf and see what happens
Title: Re: Mining, Human or Elf?
Post by: nataneq on March 22, 2011, 02:16:57 PM
When it comes about Lumberjacking human gets more logs but have a lower chance to get special type of wood. Elfs got higher chance to catch Yew, Ash, Heartwood etc logs. So at the beginning it's good to use human because you need planty wood for training fletcher, carpentry etc you will get wood just faster. After you become GM with carpentry, flecther and lumberjacking its good to change race by quest, because at this point it's better to  have higher change of getting special resources than ~2 more logs per chop.