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Re: Virtualization is the key to UO scripting success!
« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2009, 10:44:37 AM »
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I run Win2003 and Win2000 quite easily.  I like Win2000 because I can get away with 384MB/4G partitions.
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« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2009, 07:45:01 PM »
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I run Win2003 and Win2000 quite easily.  I like Win2000 because I can get away with 384MB/4G partitions.

I've never used VMWorkstation before.  Any cool features I should be aware of? :)  I haven't done anything with it yet besides Heartwood Questing! haha

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Re: Virtualization is the key to UO scripting success!
« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2009, 08:27:54 PM »
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Hmm, not really.  I haven't been able to use VMware much since it HATES the latest Linux kernel.  jeez!
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« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2009, 10:33:49 PM »
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Hmm, not really.  I haven't been able to use VMware much since it HATES the latest Linux kernel.  jeez!

Well one of the nicest features is running uo in its OWN VERSION of vista, seems to cut WAY down on the crashes for me.  Clean instal ftw on VMWare Workstation.  Thank you TM!  You know... I wonder how well your TMAdvJournal would work scanning for UO chat messages between clients in seperate vm's? :)  Oh the fun I'm gonna have.

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Re: Virtualization is the key to UO scripting success!
« Reply #34 on: July 22, 2009, 03:29:57 PM »
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Ok,

I've read this thread from beginning to end, and all I can find is discussion about all the pros and cons of each VM client.  Now I ask the question that hasn't been asked.  HOW is virtualization the key to scripting success?  I've been toying around with the tutorials to try and get a feel for the scripting language, and I'm not having a lot of luck catching on.  Will running my UO client in a VM assist in this somehow?


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Re: Virtualization is the key to UO scripting success!
« Reply #35 on: July 22, 2009, 03:39:44 PM »
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When you are running a multiclient from just one host operating system, you tend to get the clients tangled up because you might be moving the mouse with one client that might mess up the motion of another.  With a VM, the mouse and video are kept separate from one another so they can't affect the execution of each other.

I just mentioned video, and if your script relies on OCR (like the quester), in a VM the screen is actually local to each VM instance.  What that means is you can have a page covering a VM instance, but because it's got it's own virtual video card, that coverage will not effect the VM.  So basically you can minimize the VM instance and it won't effect the OCR function. 

Running a script in a VM pretty much will allow you to do other things with your computer without worrying about your own actions messing up the scripts execution.

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« Reply #36 on: July 22, 2009, 03:44:30 PM »
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That's success in my book!

I think I had an accident the first time I ran Heartwood Quester and minimized it to see and when I came back I had 3 runics and tons of talis.  I browsed the net and thought I'd won UO without even playing.  Seriously tho, it's VERY nice.  I even have my neice saying, it's a "COMPUTER INSIDE A COMPUTER!"  Fun for the whole family. :)

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Re: Virtualization is the key to UO scripting success!
« Reply #37 on: August 05, 2009, 08:57:11 AM »
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has anyone tried the HWQuester with a VM? i got mine all set up and running but the script is running much slower than normal. It crafts the bows at a normal pace but its very slow at getting the right quest and then marking the bows quest items

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Re: Virtualization is the key to UO scripting success!
« Reply #38 on: August 05, 2009, 09:37:58 AM »
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Is it your computer Rn?  I have a Quad Core Phenom with 6 gigs of ram and I can run multiple vm's without any lag.  I also have a very high speed connection to UO and normally never ping over 30...  I have had 6 vm's going at once with no problems.  There's not a lot you can do but maybe turn your monitor down to 16 bit, set your refresh rate to as high as it will go for what resolution you are set at.  Then set it as high as it will go in EACH vm also.  Sounds like you have a bottleneck somewhere tho, processor/video card/connection...  my bet would be processor/video by what you said.  Remember you're running a WHOLE nother operating system so it's a little resource hoggy especially if you're running UO in it. :)

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Re: Virtualization is the key to UO scripting success!
« Reply #39 on: August 05, 2009, 10:47:05 AM »
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think i figured out what it was, i was running service pack 1 and i should be using service pack 3. ill update as soon as i finishing downloading it


my comp is not top of the line but it def shouldnt be a prob to run a couple VMs if i wanted
2g ram
geforce 9600gt
2.33GHz intel core2 duo
250g ram
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almost forgot... the problem was that it was only using around 90mb of PF usage
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Re: Virtualization is the key to UO scripting success!
« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2009, 11:06:24 AM »
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250g ram

250g ram !! wow! I'm sure you mean you HD size ;)

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Re: Virtualization is the key to UO scripting success!
« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2009, 11:13:32 AM »
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250g ram

250g ram !! wow! I'm sure you mean you HD size ;)


err, sorry. im terrible with hardware lingo/specs


update on my problem

installed SP3
i then tried to "Install Virtual Machine Additions" (im using Microsoft Virtual PC 2007)
once it restarts it only has 4-bit coloring and something is obviously wrong

i uninstalled the Additions and i can run UO again but its still only using limited resources


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Re: Virtualization is the key to UO scripting success!
« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2009, 12:40:31 PM »
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Change your resolution to 16 bit in the video options in the vm....

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Re: Virtualization is the key to UO scripting success!
« Reply #43 on: November 30, 2009, 08:41:55 PM »
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So...I've definitely decided I like VirtualBox the best. I am currently running Windows 7 Professional as my main OS, with a Xubuntu, Chromium OS, and Windows XP SP3 (32-bit) virtual machines. I use the Xubuntu box anytime I'm programming for my OS class (instead of having to deal with Cygwin in Windows). I use the WinXP box when I'm searching for anything dangerous (such as keygens, etc) since it's very difficult to get viruses through a virtual machine (however, you CAN get viruses, so still be careful). The ChromiumOS (Google's new OS that's still in like pre-Alpha) box I just installed to play around with it. It's pretty friggin cool!

Anyways, if anyone has any VBox questions, just ICQ me or PM me because I can probably tell ya what to do or what you're doing wrong. I think it's by far the best VM program out there and you can't beat free!!
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Re: Virtualization is the key to UO scripting success!
« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2009, 02:15:02 AM »
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Just keep in mind that VBox does have some performance issues.  I've done some speed comparisons between VMware and VBox, and for things like Rar, WinZip or any other CPU intensive application, VBox simply lags way behind VMware.  FYI
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