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Ultima Online Fan Board => General UO Chat => Topic started by: Alpha on June 10, 2013, 09:27:15 AM
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This guy ALWAYS has crazy loot... I see what I think is momentum strike next to his life bar and it appears that might be an air elemental in the picture... Anyone shed some light on this?
http://stratics.com/community/threads/ring-ssi5-di25-hci20-clean.300529/
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Lets see. 3 Mod Ring, Probably Killing Earth Elementals Level 2 Shame or Molten Earth Elementals with 1500~2000 Ish Luck.
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This guy ALWAYS has crazy loot... I see what I think is momentum strike next to his life bar and it appears that might be an air elemental in the picture... Anyone shed some light on this?
http://stratics.com/community/threads/ring-ssi5-di25-hci20-clean.300529/
If he farms level 2 he can also script it easy...
Edit : Oh i see its Cata :-) i could just call him in icq and ask :P
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What are people using to farm Shame, Samp? I got one-hit killed trying out Shame the other night. Level 3, some fire elemental thing. Was having fun until then lol.
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I farm level 3 with my pure paladin - I refuse to turn her into a Sampire since she was the first character I ever created :-) I've got mid-range armor, nothing to write home about and I use soul seeker for a sword....Like I said, nothing to write home about....just have to run faster than they do sometimes. I miss the days I used to park my GM archer in the little teleport rock spot and kill poison elementals for hours on Shame level 3...Oh the good ole days.....
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I havent done so in quite awhile, but I dunno why anyone would use anything less than a sampire to farm Shame. I was able to pull max Air Ele, Earth Ele packs with sampire and kill them at the same time without issue.
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I havent done so in quite awhile, but I dunno why anyone would use anything less than a sampire to farm Shame. I was able to pull max Air Ele, Earth Ele packs with sampire and kill them at the same time without issue.
I tried it out sometimes farming those on level 5.. 3 air elemental no problem but more can be quiet dangerous..
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Lets see. 3 Mod Ring, Probably Killing Earth Elementals Level 2 Shame or Molten Earth Elementals with 1500~2000 Ish Luck.
Hmm.. Well I've "evaluated" over 200k Items from level 2 Shame (Mud / Clay / G. Earth / Fire/ Troll ) with 2000 Luck & CLAw hasn't pulled anything like that yet & YES the rules are correct. I guess I'll have to give Molten's a try.
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What are people using to farm Shame, Samp? I got one-hit killed trying out Shame the other night. Level 3, some fire elemental thing. Was having fun until then lol.
Let me guess: You were in vamp form holding an opposite slayer? Those fire elementals are brutal and can whack you. It is *almost* like the Dev team did a quick pull of the most popular templates and designed a monster to snipe people running past with that gear.
Lets see. 3 Mod Ring, Probably Killing Earth Elementals Level 2 Shame or Molten Earth Elementals with 1500~2000 Ish Luck.
Almost certainly exactly correct.
Hmm.. Well I've "evaluated" over 200k Items from level 2 Shame (Mud / Clay / G. Earth / Fire/ Troll ) with 2000 Luck & CLAw hasn't pulled anything like that yet & YES the rules are correct. I guess I'll have to give Molten's a try.
I think you may just be epically unlucky? You might try dropping your luck to the 1400-1800 range (irony!). I long ago lost track of how many items I was evaluating a day, but I think it was 10,000 at the height of my farming operation.**
The Clays on level two give the highest intensity loot, if I recall correctly. Basically, whatever drops the most gold drops the highest intensity loot. If you're not getting >450 gold (INCLUDING the luck boost) from the monster you are killing, you can't spawn loot that sells frequently enough to be worth your time. 800+ for clean legendary items.
I'm willing to be proven wrong, but I don't think there are many people who have spent more time in that cave than me!
**Enough items that TM had to modify the cLAW just to fix my memory leak. That's a lot of item evaluation!
EDIT: Removed a section that made me sound like a bragging Scripty. Sorry if you read that before I changed it!
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I was in wraith carrying Soul Seeker - probably not the best weapon, I don't know. Totally destroyed me. Of course this is my first week back in the game too so I'm not exactly on my A game.
Here's my template currently:
120 Swords
120 Tactics
115 Bushido
120 Parry
100 Spirit Speak
85 Chiv
60 Necro
My armor isn't really up to speed either; nothing imbued. Jackals, M&S, Primer, misc crap - 70/66/70/66/55.
Really I just wanted to check out Shame and see what the hype was all about lol. Now I'm ready to get this character up to snuff because I'm already having fun just killing level 1 earthies and mud pies. I'd like to make it worthwhile.
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Yeah, I spent about 3 Weeks Killing Earth Elementals on Level 2 Shame with Varying Degrees of Luck and stuck everything my scripts looted into separate chests so I could keep track of Exactly what I was getting with what Luck. Self Repairing Weapons with 100% Lrc suits in wraith form casting Curse weapon, REAL easy.
I know that 5 SSI Jewels Spawn from them, And I'm 99% Sure that you can pull 20 HCI items off them too, just not Frequently, So its just a matter of Time before you PULL both.
Nobama is Right on the Money about having TOO high of luck, it pushes you towards getting more 4-5 Property Items instead of 3 from the low level monsters.
Honestly I don't even find that ring too impressive. Having 20 HCI is Nice, but.... I wouldn't pay that much more money for a 20 HCI ring with 5 SSI... Rather have a 10 SSI ring with 15 hci. Silly people.
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I havent done so in quite awhile, but I dunno why anyone would use anything less than a sampire to farm Shame. I was able to pull max Air Ele, Earth Ele packs with sampire and kill them at the same time without issue.
I tried it out sometimes farming those on level 5.. 3 air elemental no problem but more can be quiet dangerous..
I always pulled all the ones available... I think 6-7?
I loved the reactions I would get from tamers who were trying to farm there with 1 greater dragon... 1 ele at a time.
Only part I hated most was when the eles would get low and run away.
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That makes sense now about having to much luck. I used to run two sampires and a disco'er killing unbound energy vortexs with max luck. I would always get 6-7 properties and never any useful combonations either.
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Ok... well its seems TON of people farm level 2 shame & a large % also farm UEVs but Im wondering if the difference at least on level 2 could be when you switch from 2000 to 3000 luck (2k samp luck suit + perfection) I havent actually built a samp luck suit yet so not sure. The 1 hr a day luck statue bonus doesnt yield enough results as of yet. Its mostly that clan 10 ssi jewels are sooo crazy useful for dexxers heh....
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I'm getting mixed messages in game about the luck.
I see a guy as well that always sells nice items and his suit is max luck minus 190 due to having a 2 handed wep. I tried to farm the same spot and nada.
Right now i'm 2200 luck and in search of finding the right mob to farm. So far the lizard archers in wrong seem to work for that luck range.
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Think of luck like you would reforging. There needs to be a balance in order to get what you want...
The more luck, the more powerful the items you get, which mean more mods and higher intensities. However with more mods means potentially more wasted mods and/or unnecessary mods. Again, kind of like reforging minus the brittle sometimes. There is a balance to it depending on what you want, and honestly there is no way for someone to really tell you "just use this much luck to faceroll lootchecks". You have to know what you want to work towards by knowing what is available to drop on an item and work your way up to that point from 0 luck in order to find that sweet spot where you're not getting so many wasted mods on items or too few/weak mods on items.
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I heard 1100 Luck is the 'sweet spot' for certain mobs, and it certainly seems to be the case for me when I farm level 2 with my disco sampire. I tried a max luck suit and just felt like I wasn't pulling as many usable/sellable items as with 1100, not that I have any real evidence of this - it's more of a gut feeling :)
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Disco Sampire huh? Template something like:
120 Music
120 Disco
120 Bushido
120 Weapon
100 Necro
120 Parry
Something in Chiv?
X
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Disco Sampire huh? Template something like:
120 Music
120 Disco
120 Bushido
120 Weapon
100 Necro
120 Parry
Something in Chiv?
X
Why not anatomy for damage bonus?
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That's why I'm asking, I don't know how to fit everything in that template.
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Hmmm. Ok I see a problem with anatomy. Would leave you with no way to recall/sj.
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Scrolls?
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Buy a new boat if you don't have one. Park it close to a moongate or your house.
Have at least 40 mana.
No magery is required to recall to the boat.
Use a corrupted crystal portal to get to the dungeon.
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[/lurk]
*sings*
"Ocean-front property in So-sar-eeeee-ah"
*runs*
[lurk]
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Just make sure the runebooks are fully charged, no big deal.
Also, can't you recall in wraith form without magery?
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Still requires Regs.
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I'm curious to see how 8 Ball build this template. See like I will need to put my luck suit and try Lvl 2 again. I was getting some good drop of the golem but nothing to fancy.
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That's why I'm asking, I don't know how to fit everything in that template.
I used to run a disco archer. It was extremely easy and cheap to build plus it hit REALLY hard. A disco samp sounds like it would require a lot of time and money to get the suit right.
Here lately I've seen a lot of weird temps. I saw a disco mystic that casted a RC. I can farm a lot of things with the dragon though.
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I have a disco/Mytic/Stealth. I love him to hunt around. Good support Character and protector. An template that keep you a life is a good one now.
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I always used a classic sampire template for max damage... then ran my disco mage/mystic and pretty much just controlled him. UEV would target the sampire on it's own (script takes care of swing and such) while the disco dude did his thing. Ran around 1300 luck. Would always get something clean and nice every time. Multiple items most of the time. I even ran the disco guy via script a lot. Not something you would walk away from though.
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Disco Sampire huh? Template something like:
120 Music
120 Disco
120 Bushido
120 Weapon
100 Necro
120 Parry
Something in Chiv?
X
120 Swords
120 Tactics
120 Music
120 Discordance
100 Necro
80 Chivalry
60 Parry
I use a 1100 Luck suit, a mix of wooden and leather armour with luck shield and M&S glasses which I just threw together for the 1100 Luck. So far I've only used it to farm the first few levels of Shame against melee monsters rather than casters, due to the lack of Resist Spells and the fact that I don't have EP or massive stat increases on this suit so debuffs can really shut me down. I don't really notice the lack of Perfection with taking Disco instead of Bushido, as the damage I can output seems comparable and I imagine against monsters like UEVs Disco is preferable to the increasing damage from Perfection anyway. I'd build a 'normal' suit for this char to try fighting some other high-end single target monsters, but I'm kinda burnt out on building samp suits at the moment, and I have 3 or 4 sampires anyway :P
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Yep, you absolutely need to disco UEVs. Otherwise, your kills/hour go way down. Shame is all about generating quantity to find that nugget of quality.
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Yep, you absolutely need to disco UEVs. Otherwise, your kills/hour go way down. Shame is all about generating quantity to find that nugget of quality.
I wouldn't say you HAVE to disco UEV's....
(Case 1)
Sampire Not using Disco
45% HCI
30% HLD Glasses...
UEV Average Wrestling = 135... *Number crunches* = I hit it 87% of the time if it's under HLD. If I'm AI'ing their resist is irrelevant...
Damage I take from UEV doesn't really matter bc Samp form is enough to deal with it easily...
(Case 2)
Sampire using Disco....
Basically the big one is the -14 to it's Resist and your Chance to hit bumps up to 100% basically. If your not AI'ing then the 14 Resist decrease is pretty huge, but otherwise if it's Armor Ignores it don't matter.
So it's basically a 13% increased chance to hit them.... is what you get out of DISCO.. but your giving up probably 240 skill points.... I personally want to simply try corpse skin on them for a -15 point resist drop in poison & I was thinking Double Strike for 2x the chances to leech and it will out dmg AI at that point. Under corpse with a 100% poison wep I remember doing about 99 with reg hits on a 120 Tac / 100 anat char.. so that's over 200 Double striking with more mana leech chances or even hit effect. (Though you do miss dbl strikes sometimes but with the pub 81 increase to HCI they are a lot better!)
Anyway.... ultimately if you can dual client then Disco / Tribulation / 4 Vollems etc.... these things should be falling in < 2 minutes with 2 clients.
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If only your Mana Could keep up with the Discord Debuff on top of that! The one that Procs everytime you hit it. *Drools*
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Anyway.... ultimately if you can dual client then Disco / Tribulation / 4 Vollems etc.... these things should be falling in < 2 minutes with 2 clients.
Four Vollems?! Do tell...!
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Anyway.... ultimately if you can dual client then Disco / Tribulation / 4 Vollems etc.... these things should be falling in < 2 minutes with 2 clients.
Four Vollems?! Do tell...!
2 x 2 .... = P
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Anyway.... ultimately if you can dual client then Disco / Tribulation / 4 Vollems etc.... these things should be falling in < 2 minutes with 2 clients.
Four Vollems?! Do tell...!
2 x 2 .... = P
Smarty pants. I meant, how much damage do they do, and in what fashion do you employ them?