ScriptUO
Ultima Online Fan Board => General UO Chat => Topic started by: HamsterEU on May 31, 2009, 06:16:07 AM
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Just curious if people know or have experienced the various punishments handed out by GMs for scripting? I know for UM skills they usually dump you in the Bucc's Den jail for whatever purpose that serves, but what about things like rail scripts where it is more obvious you're running one? Also, if your account is suspended do they tend to go after other accounts using the same billing info, or just the 'rule-breaker'? Interested to hear your thoughts :)
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I've been in Buccs Den many many times. Never been suspended, but generally I don't script unattended. Still, even with my GM detector, I hardly ever get a call or harassed by a GM.
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It has always been a resource gathering script that i have been caught with. The 1st offense would be sent to macro jailbe later free to log on with just a warning. Second offense ussually a 72 hour ban. Never had anything any more severe yet.
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I've been throw in jail a few times. Once for resource mining on a new shard and recalling to back and forth to a bank because I was too new to place a house, one time using the battle axe donator and I accidently took off my LRC ring so I was just sitting there. And just recently for using Maddog's Jhelom Bull Trainer.
Most have been 48 hours but the last one was 72 hours. What drives me nuts is that after you've served your time and are able to login your character is 'stuck' and can't move. I'm not sure what the purpose of this is. The first time it happened to me it didn't wear off and I just ended up leaving that shard and that character there. This last time I paged a GM about it and then I was able to move freely, then as I'm running around I get the GM response that he doesn't see any reason why I am unable to move. So I'm not sure if being stuck is on some kind of timer or what the deal is with it.
I'm not sure what their policy is as far as linking all accounts together regarding billing information and email and putting a black mark on all of them or doing a mass banning. From a business standpoint it doesn't make alot of sense and would be financial suicide. On the flip side say you ban one account of a player who has multiple acccounts ...maybe that player will cancel his remaining accounts in spite?
The scary thing is if EA or whoever was in charge actually cared about the game and or had any brains at all they would do alot of things differently in the way they run and promote UO (i.e uogamecodes. Markee Dragon, Retail Box, EA Website) . From the business apsect that is...seems with alot of things they do they just don't care about the game so what why would they care about banning some of it's subscribers?
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I have had two diffrent unattended macroing bans both of which were 72 hours. When you are use to loggin in and playing every day 72 hours seems like a long a## time. I only have one account so i went no uo the whole time. the first time i was chopping wood the other was in the farm pens trying to train the god awful taming skill.
I have a freind that scripts constantly and every time he sees someone that he thinks is scripting he pages on them. He really pisses me off.
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been perma banned on second offense one... both marks were from hitting a palidin in luna. i was healing it and disarming when it got low. Ban after two marks is rare.
rail scripts carry same bans typically.
only time I have heard of them going after other accts is when they mass ban a duper and ip bann all accts connected.
I have perma banned 3 or 4 accts over the years, no big deal, and they never went after the other accts once.
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Here's my experience with GM punishments in regards to scripting:
Skill Training: Usually asked a random question by a GM/EARep, then usually teleported to the anti-macro room and I believe you have a minute or so to remove yourself from that room. If you don't move out by yourself (I just had a brain flash that told me to write a script to walk you out of the room! LOL) you'll get a 48-72 hour suspension. RARELY will you ever get a ban. Only if a GM is having a really bad day!
*NOTE: In obvious/common macro places, you are more likely to just get a question (maybe not even that courtesy) and then suspended, such as golem-ing in Luna, taming in Jhelom farm, etc.
Resource Gathering: Usually asked a random question by a GM/EARep, but not always. Then suspended for 48-72 hours for the first or second offense of this type. Often a perma-ban after a couple times, especially in Heartwood and the Library/Museum, though I have known people to get away with just suspensions for 5 or 6 offenses.
PvP Scripts: Hardly ever caught for these types of scripts (trapped box poppers, auto bandagers, etc) simply because it is difficult to monitor and tell the difference between goodscript/crappypvper or noscript/goodpvper!
And just as a side note, this was my favorite night in jail (this picture may be offensive to some, but I assure you I am not a racist or discriminatory in any way!)
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w284/UOMaddog17/jail.jpg)
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Anyone remember when that middle upper room was the "potty mouth" room? Oh I spent many a night in there years ago... Back when telling a gm to f off didn't net you an immediate disconnect and a nice wave goodbye. :) I had Gm Ironwill get woken up late at night one night because my guild was looting the compound of a group of counselors, great fun for the whole family. I miss Gm Ironwill. He was stern BUT FAIR! He appeared to me one night, if anyone remembers when you could trap ghosts with boxes on the ground, and asked me, "Can you PLEASE stop trapping the ghosts of people you kill? I have to answer the pages..." I of course agreed because he was so nice. :) Maddog I have a picture somewhere of me standing in a PILE of items in jail. I stacked them as high as they'd go on each tile. Bandages, pots, my armor. The gm asked me to pick it up, and when I wouldn't he started wearing my armor. I never got it back and he had it on for months. I hate gms. :)
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That is freaking funny I have never actually talked to a GM i was always AFK. Is there a way to remove counts against your account? I had someone tell me to transfer my account to a friend then have then transfer it back but never tried it.
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Yea you have to use the "official" transfer method. But don't transfer it twice. Transfer it to a friend then just take it back...? Why do it two times and spend the money twice? :)
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That makes sense. Does it actually change the billing info and all that good stuff?
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Yea, it's an "official" account transfer, basically wiping it clean and making it a new account for someone else. But keeping the chars/items/houses and such. :)
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Rofl,
72 Hour ban Lumberjacking (Of Course) was afk, so no idea.
72 Hour Ban taming in Jhelom like everyone else... sad thing was... it was a guildmate who didn't recognize my character who uses my taming script that paged on me.......
Normally I get asked Gay questions like.... Do you have a weapon in your hand? What Color are Your shoes...... Thats when I say.... Dunno.... let me write a short code and I'll find out the #findcol on my shoes for you!
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The last time was when I was working my smith overnight, was to 120 smith that morning. I just happened to get up to go to the bathroom early one morning and just glanced over at the screen and saw something red, ran over and it was the orange triangle. Something about gm so and so. I immediatley shut down the script and ran out of the house and started mining. A few minutes later he came back and said something like Ah, your there!. and left me alone. How he found me ill never know, not a soul around my house i script in.
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Sounds like the GMs have some easy targets with you heartwood scripters so thier having some fun with it.
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I have been jumped on by GMs a bunch of times, gotten maybe two 72 hour bans.
Once I was able to answer the GM before he jailed me, but he said I didn't answer quickly enough.
The common thread has always been that someone paged on me, most of the time for script mining to/from my porch.
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Anyone remember when that middle upper room was the "potty mouth" room? Oh I spent many a night in there years ago... Back when telling a gm to f off didn't net you an immediate disconnect and a nice wave goodbye. :) I had Gm Ironwill get woken up late at night one night because my guild was looting the compound of a group of counselors, great fun for the whole family. I miss Gm Ironwill. He was stern BUT FAIR! He appeared to me one night, if anyone remembers when you could trap ghosts with boxes on the ground, and asked me, "Can you PLEASE stop trapping the ghosts of people you kill? I have to answer the pages..." I of course agreed because he was so nice. :) Maddog I have a picture somewhere of me standing in a PILE of items in jail. I stacked them as high as they'd go on each tile. Bandages, pots, my armor. The gm asked me to pick it up, and when I wouldn't he started wearing my armor. I never got it back and he had it on for months. I hate gms. :)
Best. Story. Ever.
=D
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Maddog I have a picture somewhere of me standing in a PILE of items in jail. I stacked them as high as they'd go on each tile. Bandages, pots, my armor. The gm asked me to pick it up, and when I wouldn't he started wearing my armor. I never got it back and he had it on for months. I hate gms. :)
Twinkle McNugget, you have to find and post that pic!!
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I am running two accts that I could careless if i lose. The are free junkers that are for farming only. after 30 days they are gone anyways so GM's are free to end them whenever. lol
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I have only had one 72 hour ban and that was while running the FAF on 5 accounts and only got banned on one of the accounts ::). I still want to think of the sight of my fleet sailing past as the GM is asking the questions.
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Maddog I have a picture somewhere of me standing in a PILE of items in jail. I stacked them as high as they'd go on each tile. Bandages, pots, my armor. The gm asked me to pick it up, and when I wouldn't he started wearing my armor. I never got it back and he had it on for months. I hate gms. :)
Twinkle McNugget, you have to find and post that pic!!
The funny thing is I didn't take the picture. I found it on a counselor website. I have the picture somewhere. I'll try to find it. I should have one of the gm wearing my armor too and me yelling at him to give it back. He said, "You left it on the ground, you didn't want it." haha If anyone remembers seeing gms with UOExtreme... I had a gm camped outside my house for 2 weeks once too. He just sat there... whenever I was logged in. He freaked me out. :)
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On my scripting accounts I have been thrown in Bucs Den countless times and only suspended once on them for 48 hours.
Now on my main account that should of been perma banned like 4 years ago. I remember once I got paged on for my pet name as Blue Balls, it let me name it that, and I got paged on so I got into an arguement with a GM about naming a pet of mine A Blue Footed Boobie. He went on to say its a part of the female body and cant have it. I was like when not and he repeat the statement and next I went on to say why do we have things in game called taint that offends me, he goes is not that part of the body and he rattled off some defination of what it really ment. Before I could say anything else he told me if I said anything else I would be banned so I decide to shut up and he let me go
There are other things I remember getting pulled into jail for and cant remember what they were but this one sticks out
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I went on to say why do we have things in game called taint that offends me, he goes is not that part of the body
Lol zomg I am speechless.... Doesnt everyone know what a taint is :P
16 accts perma banned including my original and god knows how many 72's lol
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24h 1 time and 72h 2 times (skill(necro/mage) and lumberjack macro) on Legends
24h 1 time because carpentry trainer afk on atl.
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16 accts perma banned including my original and god knows how many 72's lol
OMG 16 perma banned?!?!? All for Scripting??? or were you doing really bad stuff ;)
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I was scripting xmas trees had gems gems recharged com crystals com crystals sold for good gold rins repeat make a few spare bil during xmas for about 4 years or so :)
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Not near as good as many of yours but, i ran days on end heartwood thanks to endless knight gm tool the computer let me know somthing was up and i responded. Once before i got i believeit was a 72 hour ban for afk mining. They put me in a house in Buccaners Den frozen and stuck. Now days i never run any kind of resource gathering script w/o using an GM tool. Been running 3 miners and a fisher for 4 weeks strait. a gm came to me theother day but the tool responded and shut down all my workers and they all timed out. I didnt get anything for that.
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Not near as good as many of yours but, i ran days on end heartwood thanks to endless knight gm tool the computer let me know somthing was up and i responded. Once before i got i believeit was a 72 hour ban for afk mining. They put me in a house in Buccaners Den frozen and stuck. Now days i never run any kind of resource gathering script w/o using an GM tool. Been running 3 miners and a fisher for 4 weeks strait. a gm came to me theother day but the tool responded and shut down all my workers and they all timed out. I didnt get anything for that.
Your not elite ... you have GM moniter?
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Your not elite ... you have GM moniter?
It used to be public...was moved to privates to give people a little more incentive!
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Your not elite ... you have GM moniter?
It used to be public...was moved to privates to give people a little more incentive!
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And that was probably a couple years back now .. but alot of people got it before i moved it, but rest assured theirs an even better version in Elite now... My "ENs - Overseer" script.
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instant IP ban at UOG shard