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Ultima Online Fan Board => General UO Chat => Topic started by: Coragin on January 07, 2010, 01:22:39 AM
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Was thinking.
Can you swap out Tactics for Anatomy and still do around the same damage?
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Nope, Tactics does more damage increase than Anatomy. I believe you're looking at max of 65% for Anat verse about 81% for Tactics.
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bu t u also get an additional bounus when u have both at a certain level. i was chatting with Twinkle McNugget and he said at 100/100 he thought there was a bonus for having both. so 100/100 may be better than 80/120
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C2/Twinkle McNugget, do you have a reference for this because I don't see anything anywhere that can confirm. If you look at the Combat page on Stratics it's pretty clear and on the Anatomy page there is mention of Anatomy coupled with Eval making you harder to hit or, of course, Anat being an essential part of Healing. But I can't find anything that discusses a bonus when having both Tactics and Anatomy.
You certainly get the effects of both Anatomy and Tactics if you have both skills however it's a cumulative bonus based on the skills themselves giving a percentage of base damage as a damage increase modifier, there is no bonus for having both above and beyond the base modifier for each skill.
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no reference on my end. he mentioned that he thought it was 100/100. maybe what it really is - is tht the dif from 100 to 120 is less significant than doing an 80/100 combo o something???
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Never seen anything about a bonus when combined.
One thing... if your elf. I mentioned this in a Sammy post. It's better to get 20 Anatomy then to take tactics from 100 to 120.
20 Anatomy = 15% damage increase
100-120 Tactics = 12.5% damage increase
The only bonus I know of is the increase is greater at 100 Tactics.
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Guys, you need to learn to trust me here. One of the changes made when Evasion was nerfed was a damage bonus for having anat/tacs at 100 skill or above. The info is out there, but I haven't looked for it in a long time. No clue where it is. Probly in an old update on UO.com. It used to be in the stratics forum in some bushido writeups... I did a TON of research leading up to the PVM Dexer, and I absolutely know I read it. I based my template on that info. I don't do anything without considering everything. :) You do get a bonus, exactly what that is... I'm not sure. I wanted the highest damage output I could get for my template because it was based on tons of leeching...
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It's not a matter of trust or not trusting dude! I trust you and fully believe that you are effective with your template and that you did some great research before you built it. It's just that I'm a numbers kind of guy, it's why I like this game. I like to read the formulas and I even run my own numbers to make sure that the examples given at places like Stratics are actually correct LOL.
I also have learned a long time ago that, no matter how smart or thorough someone is, if it isn't written down somewhere it doesn't exist. I've been told soooooooooo, so, so, so, so, many things that were complete BS by just as many people over the years that I have learned to simply ask for sources so I can confirm ;)
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I remember what Twinkle McNugget is talking about. I'll see if I can find patch notes or something for it.
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I remember what Twinkle McNugget is talking about. I'll see if I can find patch notes or something for it.
Yea, there's TONS of info that I've gleaned over the years that you wont find anywhere written down. Like the whole one person is way luckier than another debate... that's because each character has a number rolled on creation... it's random, and applies to EVERYTHING you do in UO. It's kind of like luck before there was luck. And thats why your friend seems to get all the good items and you dont. :) I flat out KNOW the damage bonus exists for 100 anat/tacs. I just can't for the life of me remember what the exact amount is. It was enough for me to design my whammy template around it tho... I'm a numbers guy too. If the numbers don't add up, I wont do it.
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Yea, there's TONS of info that I've gleaned over the years that you wont find anywhere written down. Like the whole one person is way luckier than another debate... that's because each character has a number rolled on creation... it's random, and applies to EVERYTHING you do in UO. It's kind of like luck before there was luck. And thats why your friend seems to get all the good items and you dont. :)
Damn dude, now you're just trying to give me a frigging heart attack coming out with a theory like that with no source!!! Good lord I'm going to keel right over here at my desk out of sheer "need to know" anxiety!
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I did some research also myself about a year ago. What Twinkle McNugget is saying is true about the 100/100 and if my old age is not messing with my numbers game, the bonus is 12.5% for haveing both 100 or more. I did a quick look for this info and have not found it but it was listed at stratics, that i am positive about where I read it.
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I did some research also myself about a year ago. What Twinkle McNugget is saying is true about the 100/100 and if my old age is not messing with my numbers game, the bonus is 12.5% for haveing both 100 or more. I did a quick look for this info and have not found it but it was listed at stratics, that i am positive about where I read it.
Yea Stratics lost a TON of info with their board wipe... it was there for sure, it's no theory 12x. :)
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Uoguide shows Anatomy linked to Evasion.
Increases your chance to parry, also grants the ability to parry direct damage attacks from other sources, such as spells and Dragons Breath. Evasion can only be used once every 20 seconds. The chance to block is based on Bushido, Anatomy, and Tactics. The duration of Evasion is also influenced by these skills.
Publish 43 had those changes in it.
# Evasion duration will scale with your Bushido skill. Range is 3-6 second duration, with a 2 second bonus if your bushido is above GM and both tactics and anatomy are GM or better
# Evasion parry modifier will scale with your Bushido skill. Range is 16-40%, with a 10% bonus if your bushido is above GM and both tactics and anatomy are GM or better
Yet nothing about a damage bonus for having 100 each.
Five on Friday for had the same information.
Evasion
Mana Cost: 10
Minimum Skill Needed: 60 (Also requires minimum 50 skill with the weapon being wielded.)
For a short duration after activating this ability, the Samurai can attempt to parry any attack (including attacks like dragon breath and lightning bolts). The chance to parry is increased by between 16-40% of the Samurai's normal chance to parry an attack, with a 10% bonus for Bushido above 100 AND both Tactics and Anatomy that are 100 or better.
The duration is 3-6 seconds, with a 2 second bonus for Bushido above 100 AND both Tactics and Anatomy that are 100 or better. Evasion can only be used once every 20 seconds.
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I must agree with Cerveza on this one, I specifically remember them mention that anat/tactics at GM was going to be linked to Evasion. I have no recollection of anyone ever mentioning a damage bonus as well.
As for the mention of Eval/Anat, it still does work (I have a healing mage on Chessy). The formula is:
( Eval + Anat + 20 ) / 2 = Effective "wrestling" skill (but you cannot do specials)
So usually 120 eval and 100 anat is the best way to get 120 "wrestling". And GM anat is fine for healing then. It's a pretty slick template for staying alive!
Source: http://www.uo.com/fof/fiveonfriday99.html
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Ahhh... that must be what it is. You get a bonus to the time you evade or the effectiveness of evasion when you have 100/100 or above.
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As for the 'lucky character' thing - I completely believe it. I get nothing. No 120s, no crimsons, no replicas, very few marties, one doom drop ever, no mempo despite about 1000 minor tokuno treasures. Heck, it even takes me about two dozen tries to get an irk brain for Dreadhorn.
On two different accounts. The RNG hates me.
:)