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Title: I laughed a little...
Post by: Cerveza on October 28, 2010, 05:53:31 AM
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Cause it's true.
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Masscre on October 28, 2010, 06:10:26 AM
Amen.
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: TrailMyx on October 28, 2010, 06:46:45 AM
Yup, that's the truth.
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Toptwo on October 28, 2010, 07:30:21 AM
Agree 100%!!! Thanks for posting it up Cerv!
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Cerveza on October 28, 2010, 07:43:15 AM
Another says....

"People don't stop killers, People with guns do"
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: TrailMyx on October 28, 2010, 09:00:09 AM
All this on a day when I bought a .45.  Nice.
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Toptwo on October 28, 2010, 09:58:00 AM
I have not done a count, but I believe we own over 20 guns :)
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: TrailMyx on October 28, 2010, 11:13:18 AM
Just 4 for me, but that's 4 more than most of my other California brethren.  But when the Zombies take over, I'll be OK.
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Toptwo on October 28, 2010, 11:57:27 AM
Just 4 for me, but that's 4 more than most of my other California brethren.  But when the Zombies take over, I'll be OK.

Actually thats prolly 6 more then the rest of your Cali brethren!!!  I think we have enough guns to keep the Zombies at bay!
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: JustAnotherFace on October 28, 2010, 03:23:13 PM
Being an ex-cop I'm probalby a little more gun poor than most people.... almost ashamed to post up that I have in excess of 40....... Hell, no Im not!  Cmon bad guy, I DARE YOU!

JaF
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: onlyindreams on October 28, 2010, 05:05:43 PM
Love it! Just got back from the range strangely enough.
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: SLAYER on November 01, 2010, 08:30:39 PM
U can have my gun when you pry them from my COLD DEAD HANDS!  amen
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Paradise on November 01, 2010, 09:04:24 PM
I want more than the ability to own guns.  I want to carry them too.  My state doesn't allow it.  I don't feel safe even going to the park to sit by the lake by myself.  Petite women are pretty defenseless against most men, but if we were able to carry guns, maybe they would think twice about trying anything  >:(
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: TrailMyx on November 02, 2010, 05:10:28 AM
I used to carry my .380 auto when I lived in New Mexico.  It was very strange to come to California and feel "nekkid" without my gun.  I got used to it, but it was an unnerving feeling for the first few months.
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Cerveza on November 02, 2010, 06:25:15 AM
It's a great feeling knowing that the "bad guys" are still carrying theirs.

Oh wait, it's the opposite of that feeling....
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Endless Night on November 02, 2010, 06:52:43 AM
On the opposite end of the spectrum .. thiers me whos never held , carrier or fired a gun in my life.  (bar one occasion when i held a gun for about 3 seconds)....   I have had guns pointed at me thow... on a number of occassions.

 Ive been to and lived in some pretty dangerous places...  and have never actually even considered owning a gun .. the thourgh never even crosses my mind..... I guess its growing up in Enlgand... had that desire programmed out of me. When i was a kid the criminals in England didnt carry guns  neither did the police .. I believe to a certain extent that is changing/changed.

Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: SolidSnake on November 02, 2010, 08:07:06 AM
Retired Marine.

Entire family of gun collectors and gun dealers... for generations now.

No use in going into the numbers, but if you also count the working cannons the family owns and uses.. yeah...bring on the (looking over my history)..Reds..Hippies..Feds..Druggies..any nation that wants to take a shot at the title.....oh yeah...and the Zombies!!
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Oracle on November 02, 2010, 10:11:46 AM
I have never owned a gun in my life and have only fired a gun a couple of times at a shooting range to blow off some steam.  Society is changing so fast.  Remember the time when you could leave your first floor windows open for ventilation and even your front door un-locked?  When I was a kid, during Halloween there used to be this family that always put together the best and scariest Haunted House.  When you went up to the house all decorated inside and outside, they would invite you in and you would tour the Haunted House cringinh and jumping with fear.  As you exited, they would give you a full-sized candy bar and you would be happy for the experience.  Tell me what neighborhood could we have that kind of Haunted House again?  If you invited kids into your house you would probably be arrested for suspected child molestation!

Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Endless Night on November 02, 2010, 10:25:17 AM
Sorry Oracle i dont rember those times... i grew up in a major metropolitain area... if it wasnt bolted down it walked,  hell me and brothers caught some guys who had installed a valve in my mums gas line under her car and where hitting it once a week or so...... but i do rember my parents talking about when they were kids in ireland that doors and windows were never locked and they didnt even carry keys to their own homes, I think those neighbourhoods still exist but are alot harder to find...

   The house/kid thing is definatly true thow.. you have to be careful now just to protect yourself...  I pickup my kids from school everyday and sometimes thier friends who walk home ask for a ride... i dont mind but i dont let them set one foot in my car without calling thier parents first.  On the flip side .. I havent locked my car in over 10years
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Paradise on November 02, 2010, 11:43:49 AM
Katrina is the perfect example of why we all need guns.  Rape and looting was rampant, and the police fled and left people on their own.
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: JustAnotherFace on November 04, 2010, 10:13:29 AM
Katrina is the perfect example of why we all need guns.  Rape and looting was rampant, and the police fled and left people on their own.

Fled and left people on their own......? Being an ex-cop I find that really REALLY hard to believe. Let me explain something to everyone.  Law Enforcement officers do not become law enforcement officers for the money.  Cops get paid *bleep*.  Furthermore, cops typically get the least amount of respect from society in general as compared to ANY other occupation.  Cops listen to society bitch and gripe about every law and about them doing their jobs, which is to enforce the laws to protect society in general.  Yet, we know, even as you are spewing the "harrassment", "go catch a real criminal", "I pay your salary", "F**K you Pig", etc out of your mouths that WE will be the very first people you call when you have a problem.  We also know that we will respond to that call and protect you if needed, even though we may feel that your sorry lame ass doesn't deserve protecting.  And if the truth is told, how many of you will step up to say that you would protect a guy with your life today who just called you every name in the book and spat on you yesterday? Anyone?  I thought not. Yet that's exactly what law enforcement officers do.  And they do it again, with shitty pay and disrespect EVERYDAY.

The point is, cops become cops to help people, to help society, and to protect the innocent from anything thrown their way.  That includes rape, looting, shootings, hurricanes, etc etc.  That is why I find it hard to believe that they "fled and left people on their own".  Did you witness this first hand?  If you did, do you know where they were going?  I'm fairly certain that they were extremely short handed.  Perhaps they had a more urgent call that they had to answer. If you didn't witness it, or didn't ask where they were going, or if they had a more dire situation that they had to respond to then i suggest that you not believe everything you hear and for sure that you not believe everyting you see on the TV.  Media spins situations in what ever direction will reap them the most ratings... true or not true, they could care less.

Do you have any idea where we would be without laws and without law enforcement officers to enforce those laws?  Try total chaos and anarchy. Can you envision an entire society where you know that there is a large chance that you will be shot dead as soon as you step out of the door of your house? Or that same society where you know that if your house isn't built into a bunker that there is a large chance that you will be raped and killed inside your own home? Ever been shot because you had a gallon of gasoline that someone wanted? Ever had a friend killed because they had a loaf of bread and some one wanted it?

I admit, there of course are some bad and corrupt law enforcement officers. But the percentage of those are very low as compared to the rest of the occupations in the world.  There will also always be a very small percentage that are corrupt, because well, guess what, COPS ARE HUMANS ALSO. Humans are fallible. Period. The largest percentage of law enforcement hold them selves and their peers to a higher standard. Lord knows society holds us to a higher standard as well. Things that would be acceptable in other occupations are strictly forbidden for cops, or at a minimum would cause the cop to be severely looked down upon.

People in general need to pull their heads out of the sand and respect and appreciate the people who protect their sorry asses from this type of carnage and mayhem every single day and night while they are laying there sleeping peacefully.

I challenge you all, the next time you see a cop somewhere, instead of the normal snarl on your face and disrespectful looks, thoughts, or speech you normally have, walk up to them.  Say "Officer, I just wanted to let you know, I appreciate what you do, thank you for putting your life on the line every day for me and my family."  Who knows, you just may make a new friend. I assure you that law enforcement officers will make the most loyal of friends that you will ever have.

Ok, I will step off my soap box now... I feel like Mad Max... QUIT RUINING MY LIFE!

JaF
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: JustAnotherFace on November 04, 2010, 10:32:43 AM
One clarification... I do not dispute that we all should be allowed to own and carry guns.  I am a very avid believer in the 2nd amendment. I also believe that that right has already been infringed upon by the government, and that if we sit by and dont do something that eventually that right will be taken away from us totally.  However, if every time a criminal was getting ready to commit a crime they had to think "*bleep* this guy probably has a gun", there would be a lot less crimes being committed.  As it stands now, criminals know that for the most part society are easy marks.

JaF

Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Endless Night on November 04, 2010, 10:44:46 AM
I also live in a hurricane zone.  And yes cops do leave.. but i wouldnt use the word fled; what happens normally is that once the threat is immienent.. a last warning is given that people in areas blabla are under a mandatory evacuation... if you choose to stay your on your own.. thier will be no help from police fire ambulance or any other services .. as they would have to unduley risk thier lifes to come help you and probably couldnt reach you even if they wanted to.

Now that said and done .. once the immienent threat is past those areas if damaged are generally blockaded off .. even residents cannot get in... which is why some choose to stay. ironic but off the point.

Katrina was different .. a total cluster f..k, things didnt return to normal after and the damage was so immense that no city has enough man power to control, let alone with most of the manpower evacuated and not allowed back in themselves.  So if you stayed you were on your own.  

To conclude if you live in an impoverished city, in an impoverished state that is prone to massive natural disasters and you yourself cannot afford to leave prior to said disaster.. then yes you probably would be wise to invest in a bit of emergency protection.
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: UOMaddog on November 04, 2010, 11:59:29 AM
I would like to remind people that guns are NOT an effective defense against zombies due to the finite amount of ammo you can carry. Same goes for chainsaws (fuel), crossbows (bolts), nerf guns (darts), etc. Therefore, guns should only be used when it gets super rough. In the meantime, large staves, ball & chain, etc. are your best bet since you cannot run out of them! Of course, crowbars are still the best since they are lightweight, endure repeated bashing, and can impale zombie skulls...just saying!
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: SolidSnake on November 04, 2010, 08:20:26 PM
Agreed..always carry one in my backpocket. Doubles as a damned good backscratcher too..
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Masscre on November 05, 2010, 04:56:19 AM
Nice thought pattern JAF. Gives a person a different out look on our ones who protect and serve, because the media only shows us the bad side of that apple. Most people develop all of their opinions from just the media so that is the only side they ever see.
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: TrailMyx on November 05, 2010, 05:14:27 AM
I figure I have the capacity of taking out 26 zombies with my new .45.

(12+1) + 12 + 1
                    ^
              ^    |
     ^       |     +--  Throw gun
     |        +-------  Clip #2
     +--------------  Clip #1 + chamber
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Cerveza on November 05, 2010, 05:17:20 AM
Zombies are immune to gun throwing. That only works against Superman.
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Paradise on November 09, 2010, 01:21:24 AM
Katrina is the perfect example of why we all need guns.  Rape and looting was rampant, and the police fled and left people on their own.

Fled and left people on their own......? Being an ex-cop I find that really REALLY hard to believe. Let me explain something to everyone.  Law Enforcement officers do not become law enforcement officers for the money.  Cops get paid *bleep*.  Furthermore, cops typically get the least amount of respect from society in general as compared to ANY other occupation.  Cops listen to society bitch and gripe about every law and about them doing their jobs, which is to enforce the laws to protect society in general.  Yet, we know, even as you are spewing the "harrassment", "go catch a real criminal", "I pay your salary", "F**K you Pig", etc out of your mouths that WE will be the very first people you call when you have a problem.  We also know that we will respond to that call and protect you if needed, even though we may feel that your sorry lame ass doesn't deserve protecting.  And if the truth is told, how many of you will step up to say that you would protect a guy with your life today who just called you every name in the book and spat on you yesterday? Anyone?  I thought not. Yet that's exactly what law enforcement officers do.  And they do it again, with shitty pay and disrespect EVERYDAY.

The point is, cops become cops to help people, to help society, and to protect the innocent from anything thrown their way.  That includes rape, looting, shootings, hurricanes, etc etc.  That is why I find it hard to believe that they "fled and left people on their own".  Did you witness this first hand?  If you did, do you know where they were going?  I'm fairly certain that they were extremely short handed.  Perhaps they had a more urgent call that they had to answer. If you didn't witness it, or didn't ask where they were going, or if they had a more dire situation that they had to respond to then i suggest that you not believe everything you hear and for sure that you not believe everyting you see on the TV.  Media spins situations in what ever direction will reap them the most ratings... true or not true, they could care less.

Do you have any idea where we would be without laws and without law enforcement officers to enforce those laws?  Try total chaos and anarchy. Can you envision an entire society where you know that there is a large chance that you will be shot dead as soon as you step out of the door of your house? Or that same society where you know that if your house isn't built into a bunker that there is a large chance that you will be raped and killed inside your own home? Ever been shot because you had a gallon of gasoline that someone wanted? Ever had a friend killed because they had a loaf of bread and some one wanted it?

I admit, there of course are some bad and corrupt law enforcement officers. But the percentage of those are very low as compared to the rest of the occupations in the world.  There will also always be a very small percentage that are corrupt, because well, guess what, COPS ARE HUMANS ALSO. Humans are fallible. Period. The largest percentage of law enforcement hold them selves and their peers to a higher standard. Lord knows society holds us to a higher standard as well. Things that would be acceptable in other occupations are strictly forbidden for cops, or at a minimum would cause the cop to be severely looked down upon.

People in general need to pull their heads out of the sand and respect and appreciate the people who protect their sorry asses from this type of carnage and mayhem every single day and night while they are laying there sleeping peacefully.

I challenge you all, the next time you see a cop somewhere, instead of the normal snarl on your face and disrespectful looks, thoughts, or speech you normally have, walk up to them.  Say "Officer, I just wanted to let you know, I appreciate what you do, thank you for putting your life on the line every day for me and my family."  Who knows, you just may make a new friend. I assure you that law enforcement officers will make the most loyal of friends that you will ever have.

Ok, I will step off my soap box now... I feel like Mad Max... QUIT RUINING MY LIFE!

JaF

 ??? ??? ???Whoa slow down there... I never said anything bad about cops, I have complete respect for them.  I didn't say all cops were bad, or anything to that fact.  However, it was on the news repeatedly of the ones that did flee and how chaos reigned.  And to be honest, if they are outnumbered and chaos is overwhelming than of course there is nothing that can be done and they have no choice but to flee.  Now, if all the citizens form a militia with guns and the few cops are able to use those militias than chaos might not have reigned and things might not have gotten out of control...which was the entire point of the post...

AND I think you are being  very assuming by the statement  >:(;

"People in general need to pull their heads out of the sand and respect and appreciate the people who protect their sorry asses from this type of carnage and mayhem every single day and night while they are laying there sleeping peacefully.

I challenge you all, the next time you see a cop somewhere, instead of the normal snarl on your face and disrespectful looks, thoughts, or speech you normally have, walk up to them.  Say "Officer, I just wanted to let you know, I appreciate what you do, thank you for putting your life on the line every day for me and my family."  Who knows, you just may make a new friend. I assure you that law enforcement officers will make the most loyal of friends that you will ever have."

Actually by your entire statement.. You know nothing about me..

I have met many good cops, and never have been disrespectful ever. I also have quite assuredly thanked many and in fact I am always gracious to them.  I have also met some crooked cops too.  But they are the minority.  I have no idea where you live, or who you meet everyday, but where I live, unless its the lowest trash, and druggies and criminals, no one says anything bad about cops.  In fact they often get things for free in deli's coffee shops etc or discounts to show appreciation to ....  :(


And during Xmas I make it a point to drop off goodies at police stations and firehouses just on an extra non necessary added point  >:(

Also, to add to my statement, I assumed most people followed Katrina's happenings but here is at least one snippet of an article of things that happened  ;
"In January, however, Schubert was fired by the New Orleans Police Department for leaving his job just before Hurricane Katrina hit last August, and then not returning for four weeks. Like scores of city officers who abandoned their posts, he was cast as a deserter.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-02-20-neworleanspolice_x.htm

I am not saying I wouldn't have done the same thing--it is just what was reported to have happened....
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: onlyindreams on November 09, 2010, 02:32:50 AM
Something else to consider is that law enforcement officers have families as well. I'm sure that when a disaster hits a lot of officers will look to their own family first, ala Katrina where officers "fled" but came back. My dad is a retired officer of nearly 20 years and he has said that many officers would look to their own first before "returning" to duty.

JaF I agree with what you say. LEO don't get the respect that they (most) deserve. On top of that the majority are highly under-paid for what they do..........


/derail

And yes, a spoon made Rosie fat :P
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: JustAnotherFace on November 09, 2010, 06:31:36 AM

 ??? ??? ???Whoa slow down there... I never said anything bad about cops,

I never said that you did say anything bad about cops.


AND I think you are being  very assuming by the statement  >:(;

"People in general need to pull their heads out of the sand and respect and appreciate the people who protect their sorry asses from this type of carnage and mayhem every single day and night while they are laying there sleeping peacefully.
As I said.... nothing about you.... read "People in general"... society et al!


Actually by your entire statement.. You know nothing about me..
Once again, I never claimed to know anything about you, nor was I implying that you were a bad person.  Perhaps my discourse here has you feeling a little like I was pointing a finger at you or a little guilty.  I dont know, again, I dont know you.  I do know people though, and people typically get upset and defensive when something hits a little too close to home for them.


I have met many good cops, and never have been disrespectful ever. I also have quite assuredly thanked many and in fact I am always gracious to them.  I have also met some crooked cops too.  But they are the minority.  I have no idea where you live, or who you meet everyday, but where I live, unless its the lowest trash, and druggies and criminals, no one says anything bad about cops.  In fact they often get things for free in deli's coffee shops etc or discounts to show appreciation to ....  :(


And during Xmas I make it a point to drop off goodies at police stations and firehouses just on an extra non necessary added point  >:(

Good for you!! If that is actually the truth, then you sound like just an all around good guy..........Some may even say a little too good to be true.  Or as we cops usually would wonder....."what is he trying to hide". It also sounds as if you may live in the only "Mayberry" city left in America. Or possibly you just walk around with blinders on, as most of society does now a days.


I am not saying I wouldn't have done the same thing--it is just what was reported to have happened....
Again, as I said before, I suggest you not believe everything you hear, and for sure not believe everything you see on TV.  My questions still stand....Did you personally witness it?

As I previously indicated, the point of this was for people in general, society et al.  If you read my original post any other way, you took it out of context. This one however is directed at you specifically.
Have a wonderful day!

JaF
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: JustAnotherFace on November 09, 2010, 06:37:08 AM
Something else to consider is that law enforcement officers have families as well. I'm sure that when a disaster hits a lot of officers will look to their own family first, ala Katrina where officers "fled" but came back. My dad is a retired officer of nearly 20 years and he has said that many officers would look to their own first before "returning" to duty.

JaF I agree with what you say. LEO don't get the respect that they (most) deserve. On top of that the majority are highly under-paid for what they do..........


/derail

And yes, a spoon made Rosie fat :P

Good point OiD!  Of course we want to take care of our families as much as everyone else wants to take care of theirs. 

And thank you for your agreement. :)
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Paradise on November 09, 2010, 08:34:01 AM

 ??? ??? ???Whoa slow down there... I never said anything bad about cops,

I never said that you did say anything bad about cops.


AND I think you are being  very assuming by the statement  >:(;

"People in general need to pull their heads out of the sand and respect and appreciate the people who protect their sorry asses from this type of carnage and mayhem every single day and night while they are laying there sleeping peacefully.
As I said.... nothing about you.... read "People in general"... society et al!


Actually by your entire statement.. You know nothing about me..
Once again, I never claimed to know anything about you, nor was I implying that you were a bad person.  Perhaps my discourse here has you feeling a little like I was pointing a finger at you or a little guilty.  I dont know, again, I dont know you.  I do know people though, and people typically get upset and defensive when something hits a little too close to home for them.


I have met many good cops, and never have been disrespectful ever. I also have quite assuredly thanked many and in fact I am always gracious to them.  I have also met some crooked cops too.  But they are the minority.  I have no idea where you live, or who you meet everyday, but where I live, unless its the lowest trash, and druggies and criminals, no one says anything bad about cops.  In fact they often get things for free in deli's coffee shops etc or discounts to show appreciation to ....  :(


And during Xmas I make it a point to drop off goodies at police stations and firehouses just on an extra non necessary added point  >:(

Good for you!! If that is actually the truth, then you sound like just an all around good guy..........Some may even say a little too good to be true.  Or as we cops usually would wonder....."what is he trying to hide". It also sounds as if you may live in the only "Mayberry" city left in America. Or possibly you just walk around with blinders on, as most of society does now a days.


I am not saying I wouldn't have done the same thing--it is just what was reported to have happened....
Again, as I said before, I suggest you not believe everything you hear, and for sure not believe everything you see on TV.  My questions still stand....Did you personally witness it?

As I previously indicated, the point of this was for people in general, society et al.  If you read my original post any other way, you took it out of context. This one however is directed at you specifically.
Have a wonderful day!

JaF

Number one I'm female--which shows how little you know about me.

Secondly Every other sentence, from the beginning of your post was "you" "you" "you"

not "a lot of people" "a lot of people"

So of course it looks like it is directed at me.  Especially when you did this whole rant of an article based on one post that was meant in an entirely different context than you took it.  

Of course cops have families and they are their number one priority--It is mine and would always be mine, and I'd kill for my family period let alone leave them in a crisis.  ---Which is my point on why we all need guns to protect our own family because it is only human for cops to put their families first--esp when they are outnumbered by far.

I don't live in Mayberry, I live in the suburbs of a major metropolitan area.  Forgive me to jumping to this conclusion, but I'd have to say you have gotten overly bitter and cynical.    I and many others are not blind to society.  Society sucks on a whole.  But your statement
here...

"Good for you!! If that is actually the truth, then you sound like just an all around good guy..........Some may even say a little too good to be true.  Or as we cops usually would wonder....."what is he trying to hide". It also sounds as if you may live in the only "Mayberry" city left in America. Or possibly you just walk around with blinders on, as most of society does now a days."


shows that you might have blinders on.  You are focused on all the bad, you don't see all the good.  Do you think you are the only "good" person out there?  If that is so, who are the volunteer firemen?  who are the volunteer shelter runners?  Who are the volunteer donators?  Oh I forgot--they ALL MUST HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE.  

I am not a saint--never claimed to be one.  Most people aren't.  If chaos hit, I would try my best to help society, but if it came down to whether my family ate over another. who knows what I'm capable of.  Hopefully I would never have to find out.  

However, I try to be honest to death, have gotten burned for it many times, but refuse to change.  I have never stolen anything in my life.  I teach my kids everyday to be polite.  When I tell my kids to hold the door open for strangers and they walk through without a thank you as if I or my kids are the bellhops, I tell them be nice anyway--it may rub off on others.  I face rudeness everyday--but i would not assume that someone who tries to do goodness in the world is "trying to hide something"

As for the goodies.... here is what I am HIDING;  I am an extreme asthmatic, not the asthmatic that says they have asthma and puff on an inhaler once a year.  I suffer on a daily basis.  It prevents me from volunteering to homeless shelters, animal shelters (I love animals I am allergic to most)  and many other things I would like to do.  So I try to do other things that I can to contribute, since I can't contribute in physical ways.  The local fire stations and ambulances have brought oxygen to my house on several occasions and have saved my life.  I do little things it isn't much.

Stop asking what the people who are genuinely trying to do something nice "is hiding".  

Cops fleeing their posts during Katrina made national headlines... was I there? no did I see it? No, however many cops lost their jobs and many were under review.  Did I say I agreed with any of this? No --it was a post in the thread having to do with why we should have gun rights.  I never said my statement on whether I even thought these cops should lose thier jobs or be fired etc.  When you leave your post without permission, and are later fired for it or under review, or punishment, it is called fleeing.  Would I have done the same thing or could I blame them?  Hell no. Family comes first.. My point is that people with guns--good people--should be able to form a militia against all enemies foreign and domestic.  Than perhaps the cops needn't feel the need to flee.  But my point in that was if only cops had the right to have firearms, and they did what was human and left a chaotic scene, the families not allowed to have guns would have little protection (once again in a thread about guns)

Anyways... I have been insulted repeatedly for a simply innocent post.   Yes you semi apologized for my misunderstanding that this was about people in general and not ME in particular--than you go and say I have blinders or am of questionable character because I do what you "dare" people to do.  Well I dare you to stop focusing on only the bad, and open your eyes up to some of the people who are trying to be the best they can be, and want a better society.  And I dare you not to hurt someone's feelings simply because you are too cynical to believe anyone is any good, and generalize everyone as a whole.  I dare you to stop being so bitter .  Oh and hurting people's feelings is NOT one of the GOOD traits I see in society  >:( >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Cerveza on November 09, 2010, 09:02:44 AM
A little debate is fun. Please keep it civil.

The only real rule is NO PERSONAL ATTACKS. Follow that and we'll let things go along pretty nicely.
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: TrailMyx on November 09, 2010, 09:06:31 AM
Yep, my "gonna lock this" twitch was starting to wiggle...
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Endless Night on November 09, 2010, 09:56:51 AM
Yep, my "gonna lock this" twitch was starting to wiggle...

Just throw an empty gun at this thread... wait that only works on zombies .. wait no it doesnt im confused...  I think ill stick with my 36" matchette...
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: JustAnotherFace on November 09, 2010, 10:04:53 AM
I concede....

I'm done with this debate. You are obviously much more informed on Police and society than I am.  Who could have thought it? Live something for 15 years and know nothing about it... oh well, You win... Have a great day

JaF
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: UOMaddog on November 09, 2010, 10:35:10 AM
Yep, my "gonna lock this" twitch was starting to wiggle...

Just throw an empty gun at this thread... wait that only works on zombies .. wait no it doesnt im confused...  I think ill stick with my 36" matchette...

CROWBARS PEOPLE! CROWBARS! (preferably with sharpened tips)
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Paradise on November 09, 2010, 11:45:05 AM
I concede....

I'm done with this debate. You are obviously much more informed on Police and society than I am.  Who could have thought it? Live something for 15 years and know nothing about it... oh well, You win... Have a great day

JaF

*sigh* you say you concede but throw in something snippy anyway.  I never said you weren't informed on Police or society, nor did I say that you hadn't had bad experience with idiots making snide remarks or being rude.  I completely agreed with you, I just defended myself, of which you attacked, and defended others out there and pointed out that there are in fact people who respect cops, and people who do try to be good for no hidden agenda.  That is the last i will say on this... i will concede as well and not add a snippy remark to keep it going (although my comment about not adding a snippy remark could be a snippy remark? )

So anyway here is my peace offering "throws a Messana pie at you" thank you for being a cop for many years and I'm appreciative for putting your life on the line to help protect people... :D
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: JustAnotherFace on November 09, 2010, 11:53:59 AM
So anyway here is my peace offering "throws a Messana pie at you" thank you for being a cop for many years and I'm appreciative for putting your life on the line to help protect people... :D

Hmm... wonder what she wants? LOL! Just kidding, lighten up! :P
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Paradise on November 09, 2010, 11:59:13 AM
lol didn't want anything =) just wanted to get away with throwing a pie in the face of a cop and not get arrested  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Masscre on November 09, 2010, 12:33:54 PM
I prefer a sharpened 36" Chain saw they work wonders on zombies and if you place on on each end of a 3" pipe and tighten them down and crank them and lock them at full throttle you have a super dooper killin stick !!
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: UOMaddog on November 10, 2010, 10:12:00 AM
I prefer a sharpened 36" Chain saw they work wonders on zombies and if you place on on each end of a 3" pipe and tighten them down and crank them and lock them at full throttle you have a super dooper killin stick !!

But you can run out of gas! And they're heavy to swing around!
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: onlyindreams on November 10, 2010, 02:01:51 PM
I prefer a sharpened 36" Chain saw they work wonders on zombies and if you place on on each end of a 3" pipe and tighten them down and crank them and lock them at full throttle you have a super dooper killin stick !!

But you can run out of gas! And they're heavy to swing around!

But if you cut off your hand and then attach the chainsaw to it!!! Then you'd build up some huge ol' arm muscles and would be the chainsaw king!
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: UOMaddog on November 10, 2010, 06:26:31 PM
You'd still run out of gas, unless you can power it with the electrolytes in your blood stream!!!
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Khameleon on November 10, 2010, 06:43:14 PM
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: onlyindreams on November 10, 2010, 08:37:51 PM
You'd still run out of gas, unless you can power it with the electrolytes in your blood stream!!!

Or just eat a lot of beans!..... Oh wait.
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Masscre on November 11, 2010, 06:45:22 AM
Thanks Kham that was a good memory had forgotten that famous piece of film.
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: TrailMyx on November 11, 2010, 10:09:18 AM
Thanks Kham that was a good memory had forgotten that famous piece of film.

That's still one of my favorite films of all time and certainly my favorite B actor.
Title: Re: I laughed a little...
Post by: Khameleon on November 11, 2010, 02:48:31 PM
I haven't seen that movie since I was like 9 or 10 maybe older I can't remember.. I'm gonna have to see if its in my netflix library