Ahh that makes sense, I was looking at the code and began to realize why the data isn't saved. Trying to load a shard's worth of data for each sign(or step) isn't going to work, lol.

Thanks for the detailed writeup, now I get it. I'm not easily told something can't be done but I'm also able to listen to more experienced people... when it makes sense to me, which it does now.

Thanks again.

Not standalone, no. I don't think I made myself clear though...

- no pathfinding wanted or required, this is not an afk tool
- map movement is possible, you can see it in action via the script "MIB SOS MASTER" by Kalinex. Download the sosmaster file, I think it's hosted on the easyuo site(http://www.easyuo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=97820#97820).
- I think the script picks up the location from the MIB text when opened and plots a dot on the map. A version for Idocs could check a sextant each time a sign is checked and grab the text from that.
- Plotting dots on the map is also possible via easyuo, that script does it already. Here is a screenshot http://thedemigod.com/pics/lazysos5.jpg

As you can see in the screenshot the orange dot by #3 is the player character, the dot moves when the player does. Also, over by #10, are green dots for MIB locations... this could be on the map for IDOC locations. A function that turns the dots from one color to another over time to let you know how long ago you last checked the house would be ideal.

That MIB script is almost exactly what I would like for IDOCs actually, just switch MIBS for IDOCS and voila. Again, the map co-ords can come from a sextant reading since there is no MIB to read and house signs don't give you co-ords.

No, this isn't a thread for figuring out who is the richest among us, heh. I'm sure that's not me anyway. A pet peeve I have when at the bank trying to figure out how much I have in the bank is that it's such a pain sometimes to figure out.

- saying "balance" only tells you how much you have in loose, non-check, gold
- sometimes spending money, or dying, takes money from checks stored in the bank. Those 20x 1 mil checks might only be 18x 1 mil + 2x a lesser amount thanks to this mechanic. I hate checking each check individually!

A better way
- Buy a house placing tool and put it in your bank box
- Click on the tool and select classic house(or any other type)
- look at the bottom of the gump for your "bank balance" reading

That reading is accurate and includes all loose gold and checks, regardless of if they are in packs etc. Is there another way or command for getting your correct bank balance quickly? Unfortunately I don't have an ATM vendor yet nor is such a vendor as secure as the bank box if you, for whatever reason, close your account.

Thank you very much, sir. It will  save a whole lot of time 

Sweet, I needs it for what I'm working on right now! 

As I type this I'm realizing just how complicated a task it is to have a complete list. The crates I was just messing with, for example, well when you put them down they get a TYPE assigned like all items do but if I move it and it changes direction... that's a different item TYPE. Obviously you need both types if you work with crates then. Some items, like the luck globe, don't turn when you drop them but they can be turned by the house tool, again... different type of item when turned. What a pain..!!

DAoC pre-Atlantis expansion was some of the best times I've had in game, not far behind dread days in UO. I remember disliking fighting an alb chanter when he was holed up in a tower and able to kill you in the stairs with AOE before you could get anywhere near him. Reminded me of a guy named GOHAN on Atlantic, from the guild SSJ during dread days, if you saw him/them you were going to have a bad time... it was awesome

At one point Mythic promised to release a pre-Atlantis ruleset but they never did, one bad expansion can DESTROY a game. Sure it was fun for a bit but dat grind OMG. It's not as bad now, you can bypass a lot of the group intensive stuff, which is good considering 90% of the playerbase quit not long after trials was released.

You're welcome.

So I've had the chance to run the looter script at a competitive IDOC now and I have some observations/ideas about how I'd like to improve it even further, IDOCs are competitive and so every tool/edge counts. Firstly, I got PWNED by another scripter. I don't know if he's using the elite version or something else entirely but he destroyed me in grabbing those items... but that's OK because from failures comes improvements right?

details: Atlantic IDOC near Vesper yesterday, house contents visible, several chests locked down next to the west wall making them 2 tiles from us standing outside... ie: within grabbing range. I set all 4 of these chests as priority and had the script already looting when the house fell. He had 3 pack animals and was standing on top of me and he easily snagged all 4 chests before my script could. I think I *almost* got one of them, it appeared on my cursor momentarily, but no go. Yes, my script is working fine, I did get some other things as I walked away from the others.

What I learned: Straight up vs his script I will not be getting much loot and he's a regular(with friends) so I need to speed my script up and/or come up with some tactics to improve my loot skillz. I noticed that he did not appear to pathfind at all the entire time, no stutter steps etc. On my end, from the time I hit begin looting, pathfinding was telling me I couldn't get there so perhaps my script was in the pathfind loop while his was already taking chests, but I don't know.

Ideas: I'm not sure the elite version will be for me since I do not plan on using pack animals, I prefer fel idocs where pack animals are often a hindrance instead of a tool. That means improving what I've got until it's competitive so some ideas...

- I can create a hybrid setup so that some items are specifically targeted by ID while others are targeted by Type. This would help at private idocs and in getting items I did not originally see.

- I can then create a quick destruction loop which finds chests which can be destroyed and quickly destroys them. I believe it's faster to destroy a chest than it is to grab and drag it to a pack(not sure on that?). Since I'm already scanning for specific item types I could then grab any that fall out of the chests which others may not have set as priority. Also, since I'm not using pack animals, I won't fill up with containers or items I don't want. This will also increase the amount of looting required to fully clear the idoc. Right now a player with packies can sometimes clear the entire idoc in seconds thanks to chests. I think someone once said "if you can't make things better, make them worse"... and I think this would create quite the mess. Players who grab items using the ctrl/shift method would also be out of luck since they would see a lot of items stacked on the same spot.

- I have other ideas I'd like to try, including one radar-like idea that might be a game changer in fel, but I'm not sure it's OK to post them here. It's not breaking any EA rules but it is taking advantage of a game mechanic that EA likely didn't intend on(I noticed it while fishing of all things). I'd rather share that idea with an interested admin before posting it, in case it shouldn't be posted. In fact I don't know if I should be posting any ideas like this here so I'll stop there, let me know.

I'm not so greedy as to hoard ideas but I do want the most from my tools so any suggestions, especially for Fel side idocs, are appreciated. IDOCs are a competitive sport! If only my scripting skills could keep up with the ideas I want to try.... soon!