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« on: January 21, 2010, 07:18:11 AM »
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Didn't they change Super Slayers a while back so that Super Slayers were 2x damage and specific slayers are 3x damage?

Seems like I remember reading something about that.

So like if your fighting a Dragon and you have a Reptile slayer your getting the 2x bonus. If you were to use a Dragon slayer on it you'd get the 3x bonus.
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Re: Slayers
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2010, 07:20:53 AM »
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I don't know the exact multiples, but I do believe you are correct about extra damage for specific slayers.
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Re: Slayers
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2010, 08:09:38 AM »
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From UOGuide:

Until the Stygian Abyss expansion, all Slayers did double damage to applicable monsters. However, following that expansion, Lesser Slayers did triple damage, and Super Slayers did double damage. The manufacturers stated explicitly that this was intended to increase the value of the Lesser Slayers, which were increasingly looked down upon by players (with a few notable exceptions, such as Scorpion Slayer, Spider Slayer, and Dragon Slayer, all of which had particular uses).
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Re: Slayers
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2010, 08:14:08 AM »
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^^ That, was just about to post.
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Re: Slayers
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2010, 08:14:42 AM »
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Did the damage cap change any?
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Re: Slayers
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2010, 08:31:28 AM »
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I think the cap is still that 300%, even with slayer.

Now I'm thinking that instead of specific slayer I'll just get super slayers. My Swammy has around 80 DI without weapon, so that's right at the 100% for that, add in Strength + Tactics (no real anatomy), Enemy of One, and then Double Damage for Super Slayer and I think that's top at 300 even without perfection.

I'll have to crunch some numbers, but it would appear that if your damage output is already very high, super slayers would be the way to go. If you lack some DI somewhere (no anatomy, low DI, etc) then the Specific Slayer might be better.
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Re: Slayers
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2010, 08:53:02 AM »
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Ahh...my troubled beginnings. I actually once had the Santa Slayer from '98. It was a regular bow with regular mods but did NOT have 2x or 3x damage to humanoids. I sold it a short while after owning it for what was at the time HUGH amounts. It is from that which I've adopted my name.

I still have nearly a full set of double slayers from the modified jukan bows. By full double slayer set I mean all slayer types available at the time of release with no repeats. No repeats as in no two bows having a common slayer class. I've even got a few double super slayers that I still hunt with. Now those do so badass damage!  My one Demon/Undead owns the succubbi champ and hit's for 500+!

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Re: Slayers
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2010, 10:07:13 AM »
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I used to have one of those undead/demon slayer juka bows as well, but lost it somehow over the years  :(
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Re: Slayers
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2010, 10:09:20 AM »
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I sold a Demon/Elemental slayer. I'd played with it in Doom and was hitting the Dark Father for way too much damage. He'd jump off Dragons to attack me.

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Re: Slayers
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2010, 08:30:49 AM »
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Can anyone confirm this? I'm wondering if the DI is worth getting specific slayers, or if you hit max with a super slayer...

Stratics PvM calculator shows exactly the same damage for Specific Slayer and Super Slayer. But they are wrong about 50% of the time.
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Re: Slayers
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2010, 08:34:33 AM »
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Can anyone confirm this? I'm wondering if the DI is worth getting specific slayers, or if you hit max with a super slayer...

Yes specific slayers do a TON more dmg, for my whammy its +20 compared to its super version.  Tested on Mephitis, identical weapons, one with Arachnid one with Spider, 20 more dmg on average from spider.  Im currently running JAF book maker, if anyone has a good surplus of blank scrolls right now, drop em off.
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Re: Slayers
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2010, 09:06:12 AM »
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Nice, So I may want to make my Night's Kissesses specific slayers instead of Super Slayers. That frees up more points :)
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